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Blown Clutch now Crank is getting stuck

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Streetsweeper21

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Jan 11, 2006
Atlana, Georgia
Alright I was havin some problem with gettin out of 1 3 5 gear everytime I put it in those gears and tried to take it out it would get stuck than release with the car on or off. I adjusted the shift linkage seem to work to be a little better next day same thing happen so I figured its either the shift rails or clutch. Im drivin than all sudden the car gets stuck in gear had to start it up in gear so i figured its the clutch.
Soon as I get in my driveway the car shuts off and wouldnt start I kept tryin to start but it wouldnt start there was smoke coming from the starter so I changed the starter same thing happened it was as the crank wasnt spinning. So I pulled the tranny and soon I took off the clutch a spring fell out. But now when I try to spin the crankpulley with the flywheel off it spins normal than soon as the pistons get half way up it gets stuck than I have to use alot of force with a breakbar to spin it than it gets freely again. Usually I can spin int by hand.

So question is would the tranny or clutch be bad? The fact that it would get stuck in 1 3 5 gear with the car off OR on?

Also would would cause the crank to not spin freely?:dsm:
 
If you clutch is stuck I would first check the master and slave cylinder and try to bleed it.

Well the springs were broken on the clutch disc so obviously its not the master or slave cylinder. What im asking is would the clutch make the gears get stuck in 1 3 5 with the car off if the clutch was Going bad? Or would that be the tranny? If its the tranny than that might be why my clutch blew. But now Crank is not spinning to freely so has to be something internally wrong inside the engine also.
 
First I was thinking that it was the throw-out bearing after the clutch burned out, but there is no external reason that the tranny would get stuck in the upper shift positions unless there was something wrong with the shifting mechanism. This of course would be independent of the clutch and therefore is not very likely without having dropped the clutch while in gear or tried to start it while it was in gear.

It sounds like your engine was burnt up by trying to start it while it was in gear after the fact. Diagnosis for this would be that your crank or rod bearings are shot. What it sounds like to me is that your engine is shot and your tranny is shot.

Drop your oil pan and dump your tranny fluid and lets see if we can build the Eiffel Tower with the metal you find in there!
 
yeah tranny sounds messed up. as for your engine, make sure you dont bend valves when u use a lot of force to turn the pully, if it jumped a tooth or something :sosad:
 
If the valves were bent it could make it difficult, but that would be serious damage, not just minor bending. The valves are only pressed by the cams, not pulled back out from the chamber. The springs will pull the valve back upward.

This would mean that the valves would have to be bent enough that the piston is pushing them back into the guides, then the cams are trying to push them back out. This combination of pistons needing to press the valves then the cams reverse could cause a great deal of internal difficulties.
 
The simple fact is that your car should go into any gear when the engine is off. if not it is most likely a internal trany problem. Your starter burt up b/c the engne has either bent a rod, siezed a piston or bent the crank.

Time for a rebuild and a new trany.
 
Okay so i pulled the motor checked the timing marks everything was fine so from there i knew it wasnt the head. I took off the oil pan and I found alot of brownish/goldish metal in very little pieces a very small like gold half of circle. I cant really tell if its bearings or what. But I highly doubt its something to do wit pistons or rods right?
 
Okay got a pic of what it looks like I was told by a shop it was main the bearings... But wasnt able to identify the broken gold pieces any ideas?
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Would I have to take out pistons and rods to change the main bearings?
 

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Okay got a pic of what it looks like I was told by a shop it was main the bearings... But wasnt able to identify the broken gold pieces any ideas?
Scoop out that debris, clean it up, and snap some good pictures. It will help us identify where it came from.

Would I have to take out pistons and rods to change the main bearings?
No.
 
I have no Idea as to how you didn't hear a knock in that engine before this problem occured. It looks like to me that You have some washers in there and the first thing that comes to my mind are possibly the crush washers for the oil squirters, if the car is a turbo (I forgot). As far as what I was saying with the trany being blown If the crank is stuck in a cirtain spot try to move the car a little bit while in neutral and it might go into gear if you are able to disinguage the clutch. This will tell you whether or not you should try to replace the trany while doing a rebuild. I am betting some of that debris is from your ballance shafts. With that much debris in the engine and the crank getting stuck DON'T JUST REPLACE THE BEARINGS!!!!!!!!!!! tear the entire engine down and at least do and entire bottom end rebuild.
 
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