[RESOLVED] Problems with the Starter 1g in a 2g

[jake247]

My starter sounds like it is just spinning when I tried to start my car. I'm going to take it with me to advance auto parts to get tested, but I'm pretty sure it's fine, relatively new, was working when I started my 1g in a 2g engine swap.

I have a six bolt motor, with a FWD six bolt flywheel (i had an awd six bolt flywheel, I had to change that out, I had two sitting next to eachother, and know they are different as I still have my seven bolt flywheel which is observably different then my six bolt awd flywheel.)

My question is what starter am I supposed to be using?

I took my starter out, and it doesn't show any damage to the teeth like it was grinding or anything, and I reached in and could not feel any damage to the flywheel either.




I also had starter problems when I did my auto-> manual swap in the same car. I had trouble finding the right starter for the flywheel, I think i found out the difference was that my car has a "98" build date instead of the '99 that it is stickered as.


Any ideas? anything? I was so pumped, it's gorgeous out today!

 

[GsxAZman]

Im having the same problem so if you guys can kill 2 birds with one stone. Taken from my post in another forum(97 FWD):
So I just finished up putting a newer 6 bolt into my 2g. I cant get it to crank. Had my starter hooked up improperly at first and so I ended up buying a new starter thinking that was the problem and then figured out it was hooked up wrong.
So now everything is hooked up correctly and im pretty sure I can hear the starter turning(loud whirring noise coming from starter) but the motor is not cranking. Im thinking they gave me the wrong starter at Checkers or when I bought my used Fidanza it was actually a AWD flywheel instead of FWD like they said it was. Will double check the starters P/N.
If my idiot ass actually installed an awd flywheel into my fwd is there anyway I can run it with an awd flywheel if I put a starter for an awd?
Any other ideas besides the ones I mentioned not including pulling tranny and measuring the flywheel?

 

[Black95awd]

You have the wrong flywheel, I have used both 1g and 2g starters on my 2g with a 7 bolt and my friends 2g with a 6 bolt, so I know they are interchangeable, and auto and 5 speed are interchangeable. all in all the starter stays the same and the flywheel changes.

edit: the trans is also different and is why you have 2 different flywheels.

 

[GsxAZman]

could it also be that I might have put the wrong starter backplate? Forgot which plate was which when I started switching parts. Any big differences between 2g fwd backplate and 1g awd backplate?

 

[Black95awd]

could it also be that I might have put the wrong starter backplate? Forgot which plate was which when I started switching parts. Any big differences between 2g fwd backplate and 1g awd backplate?

I am assuming you are talking about the plate between the engine and trans, and if that was causing it I dont believe you would be able to get the started bolted into place. starter positioning on AWD/FWD but that should be it. It [the starter] would not bolt to the trans with the wrong plate.

 

[jake247]

Just got back, Advance tested my starter, and said that it was good. They pulled a '91 6 bolt turbo eclipse gs starter off the shelf, i compared the two, and they were the same.

this was like a month and a half ago... but I'm pretty sure I have the right flywheel.

I got the wrong flywheel originally, caught it before the car went back together. Ordered the right flywheel (from some guy on trader.)

The 6bolt fwd flywheel I got from some guy was different then the awd 6 bolt flywheel that I had.

When my starter didn't work I immediately checked the flywheels I had sitting in the corner. I have my seven bolt flywheel which is considerably larger in diameter then the awd 6 bolt, and they are both out of the car, sitting on the floor, useless.


So if the two six bolt flywheels are different in diameter that I had, is it possible that I have an n/t 6 bolt fwd flywheel in now? Advance doesn't carry the 1g flywheels anymore, so I couldn't check the part numbers.


I really don't want to pull the trans, I thought this was done, but it's quickly getting to that point.

 

[GsxAZman]

haha just started pulling my trans today. Sucks nuts. Gonna be the second time since the first time I forgot to shim the pivot ball.

 

[GsxAZman]

Another question, 6 bolt FWD flywheels are bigger than AWD correct? also how big? mm, inches? I guess there's no other problem it can be and that bastards coming off.

 

[Defiant]

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[jake247]

Another question, 6 bolt FWD flywheels are bigger than AWD correct? also how big? mm, inches? I guess there's no other problem it can be and that bastards coming off.

The fwd has 110 teeth around the outside, while the AWD has 106. Counting over a hundred teeth is a pain though, it's easier to compare the two.

 

[jake247]

Does anyone know if N/t 6 bolt flywheels are the same or different or what compared to turbo 6 bolt fwd flywheels?

 

[jake247]

just pulled the tranny, it was an AWD flywheel.