Need some help fast! Flywheel problem I think.

[chowda633]

This is my daily driver and I need it for work.

Last night I finalized the sale on buying a 96 GS-T it ran perfect a thing of buetiy. He told me everthing he could about it. I drove it and saw it run a few days ago. And it ran fine yesterday with no problems.

Well this morning I go out to start it up and it sounds like the fly wheel is not catching the starter at all! Its just free spinning. It did it once yesterday just for a second. It made a horrible grinding noise which I stopped imediatly and let it sit a second and then turned it over again.

It has a ACT 2600 Clutch in it and the pedal is solid there is no play or nothing. The clutch was well installed. I experienced no problems at all driving it. It ran perfect and then this happened this morning trying to go to work.

I called dave about 5:30 and he had no idea either. I belive him that he was a 100% honest about the car because when he drove and I drove it this didn't happen at all to either one of us starting it. And everytime yes I had the clutch to the floor. Just a run of bad luck again for me.

Is it possible that the teeth wore off the fly wheel that fast? I have been driving manuals for over 6 years and this car was no problem to drive. I even went out to food lion last night and it started right up after I came out.

For anyone who wouldn't mind giving me a hand there is plenty of free beer because im too poor to tow it to the hobby shop plus that doesn't open till thur. anyways and I don't have many tools. I may need a jack I haven't looked yet but this is sounding like the tranny is going to have to come off.

I have dropped 2 420A's out just never a 4G63.

Thanks,
Josh

My number is 910-526-4831 if you can give me a hand. Free beer and pizza.

 

[FireyIce01]

sounds more like a starter problem to me... you might pull the starter and have it checked... I don't know if you know what happens, but when you turn the key, it powers your starter relay, which gives the starter a bunch of juice... when the starter gets this hit of like hundred's of amps, it kicks the starter gear out, and that catches the teeth on the flywheel and cranks the motor... sometimes you can whack it (the starter) with a hammer while someone else is cranking it to get it to kick out, but odds are your starter decided it was tired and you'll just need to get a new one... that's just a possibility though... see if you can charge the battery up overnight, and see if that makes a difference... sometimes it'll work off and on for a while, and sometimes it jsut stops working one day.

That's my less than expert diagnosis... (which means that's the first place I would check, but it *could* be something else)

Good luck, and let us know what it ends up being

 

[chowda633]

Hmmm.. sounds good didn't know all that . If the starter is bad it wouldn't spin the flywheel at all would it? You can hear the flywheel spinning when you try to start it. The battery is at a full 12V I have a AFC on there that was telling me that. Man I hope your right though! If I can just get it somwhere to get it tested it would be great like autozone or somthing.

Thank you for your reply. Anyone else got anything? Im at work .

Thanks,
Josh

 

[DV8]

If the starter works most of the time, it sounds to me you may have a bad spot on the flywheel.... you just happened to hit it. If the starter was going it would do it more often.
Have a friend spin the motor with a breaker bar while the starter is off and look at the flywheel for bad teeth.

 

[FireyIce01]

you sure it's not the starter spinning? see, what usually happens is that the starter doesn't kick out into the flywheel, but it still spins.... I'd try push starting the car if you can get a couple buddies to help... if that works, then you know your car still works... and it's probably just the starter

(edit)

Yea, also, what the guy above just said about checking the flywheel with the starter off... not a bad idea either.

 

[chowda633]

Its sounding more and more like the starter. Definatly will try push starting it. The car worked perfect all yesterday. And it is the starter spinning. I thought that noise was the fly wheel spinning. So its the starter that is spinning? It did it once yesterday it didn't catch then this morning it wouldn't starter wouldn't catch the flywheel at all.

I even went out to the store last night and it started up fine.

Thanks,
Josh

 

[chowda633]

Your not going to belive what it was....

Yes it was the starter. But some how the bolts had worked loose and they got so loose that the starter wasen't even reaching the fly wheel! My first problem was to find the dam starter because this is my first 4G63 after owning a few 420A's I was a bit lost and the chiltions had it in the wrong spot in the picture. So I called dave who sold me the car and he got me in the right direction and I reached up and it almost fell off into my hand! I gave it a bunch of good cranks and it started up like nothing was wrong!

Thanks for all you help guys.

Saved me a bunch of money!

Josh