dicion
15+ Year Contributor
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- Jul 20, 2004
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Niagara Falls,
New York
Alright, Here's my story:
Yesterday: Just bought this '91 Talon TSi, the previous owner said that it had a problem with the Throttle position sensor, so he bought it, but never installed it. The car is beautiful, the engine looks great, only 70k miles, the only problem was it wouldnt tach over 4k due to the TPS sensor supposedly, and it ran rich as hell. Bought it for 1800, with the new sensor from the dealer in a plastic bag.
Today: Changed the oil, and replaced the TPS (that thing's a bi*** to get to btw.. fuel rail right in the way, damn) Anyways, It started, Still running quite rich, check engine light at idle. However, when i gave it some juice, the CE light went out, and i tached it to 6 easily.. so I figured that the sensor just needed a little rotational adjustment to get it right. adjusted the sensor from the limit CCW, to the limit CW, to see if it changed anything.
It wouldn't start, smelled heavily of gas, flooded... *sigh*
As my buddy was trying to adjust it back to where it was, i tried to start it again, and he noticed a buzzing as soon as the igniition was in the 'run' position.. we traced it down to this little beige part with a 6-pin connector, which i later learned was the idle speed control motor. Anyways, I removed this, and manually turned the shaft to adjust for a 1k idle once i got it started after letting it sit half an hour. I let it sit, idling at 1k, and as far as i could tell, it was running great (well, otherwise then the CE light due to the ECU not having an ICPM connected.. at least thats my guess
Okay, now comes my questions/etc.
1) is there anything else that could be causing this problem that I'm not investigating? "apparently" when the previous owner took it to the garage, they tested the ECU and it was fine.... I have yet to pull it out and check it myself (I'm an electronics technician by trade, so I plan on replacing the caps regardless, as i read that they can frequently cause problems.)
2) Where/who/etc would be a good place to get this part? I called the dealer, and nearly shit my pants when they told me the price. Also, Is there anyone who can give me base specs to test this one against to see if it's good? (coil resistances, etc etc)
3) Anything else i'm missing? I'm quite new to DSM motors, and really to cars in general, but I'm more then willing to learn
If you need more information, please feel free to contact me via any of the Online messaging services, i've got all 4, and I'm online almost 24/7
Thank you for any help you can provide, I just cant want to get this beautiful vehicle out on the road
Yesterday: Just bought this '91 Talon TSi, the previous owner said that it had a problem with the Throttle position sensor, so he bought it, but never installed it. The car is beautiful, the engine looks great, only 70k miles, the only problem was it wouldnt tach over 4k due to the TPS sensor supposedly, and it ran rich as hell. Bought it for 1800, with the new sensor from the dealer in a plastic bag.
Today: Changed the oil, and replaced the TPS (that thing's a bi*** to get to btw.. fuel rail right in the way, damn) Anyways, It started, Still running quite rich, check engine light at idle. However, when i gave it some juice, the CE light went out, and i tached it to 6 easily.. so I figured that the sensor just needed a little rotational adjustment to get it right. adjusted the sensor from the limit CCW, to the limit CW, to see if it changed anything.
It wouldn't start, smelled heavily of gas, flooded... *sigh*
As my buddy was trying to adjust it back to where it was, i tried to start it again, and he noticed a buzzing as soon as the igniition was in the 'run' position.. we traced it down to this little beige part with a 6-pin connector, which i later learned was the idle speed control motor. Anyways, I removed this, and manually turned the shaft to adjust for a 1k idle once i got it started after letting it sit half an hour. I let it sit, idling at 1k, and as far as i could tell, it was running great (well, otherwise then the CE light due to the ECU not having an ICPM connected.. at least thats my guess

Okay, now comes my questions/etc.
1) is there anything else that could be causing this problem that I'm not investigating? "apparently" when the previous owner took it to the garage, they tested the ECU and it was fine.... I have yet to pull it out and check it myself (I'm an electronics technician by trade, so I plan on replacing the caps regardless, as i read that they can frequently cause problems.)
2) Where/who/etc would be a good place to get this part? I called the dealer, and nearly shit my pants when they told me the price. Also, Is there anyone who can give me base specs to test this one against to see if it's good? (coil resistances, etc etc)
3) Anything else i'm missing? I'm quite new to DSM motors, and really to cars in general, but I'm more then willing to learn

If you need more information, please feel free to contact me via any of the Online messaging services, i've got all 4, and I'm online almost 24/7

Thank you for any help you can provide, I just cant want to get this beautiful vehicle out on the road
