go to start for first time and just a click.After days of work.F&^%

[95EclipseGST]

I just tried to start my 6bolt after weeks worth of work and i just get a click when i turn the key.I am so pissed i could take a sledge hammer to the whole F^&*(ING car .Holy sh$T I am so mad.I did everything right except for some questions no one answered in my last thread but i dont think that would cause this not to start. I have a new 6bolt new flywheel clutch.I did it all right.I can even turn the engine by the crank pulley by hand so thats free and clear.I dont get it. I could burn this POS to the ground right now.F^*( Well im just venting i guess.I dont know why i ever became addicted to dsm's. WTF was i thinking. Well im sure there is a mechanical error on my part somewhere but i took so much time to do this right.I thought it would at least start and idle like shit...What do i do from here.Even looking at the engine how perfect it looks i want to take a sledgehammer to it after all this work.So what now , Pull the starter out and reinsert? Any ideas .Thanks for listening to me.Also brand new optima battery that checks all good...so the power is there as far as charge for the system.

 

[leakyfaucet]

Just a click? No starter spin?

Since you didn't give me any other guesses or information, I'm going to guess that your starter is improperly wired or broken.

 

[95EclipseGST]

Just a click...Thats it. New battery and everything.I didnt change any wiring to the starter or anything.Everything is hooked up good.Could i take out the spark plugs and see if less resistance will move it? Would that work? This just in... Was i supposed to switch injector wires if it was a full 1g swap? head and shortblock? I wasnt clear on the roadrace deal with, if you had a 2g head or 95-96 ecu and all that. I still think it would try to crank even if i was supposed to swap wires around for the coilpack or injectors.Right? And i swear i did the wiring diagram for the cas the right way.

 

[leakyfaucet]

If your starter isn't spinning, then this particular problem is related to your starter! Double check wiring. It's possible you bumped your starter or damaged it somehow.

If you hear a click then your starter solenoid is okay, but possibly wired wrong.

Edit: Try starting your car with a push or rolling it down a hill or something. Then you would at least know if your engine runs.

 

[95EclipseGST]

Could that mess anything up by rolling it? Its on jackstands right now cause i need to bleed the brakes. What if i pulled the starter out and had it dangling.Wouldnt it spin just sitting there by itself with the key turned? I thought maybe since i heard the click that teh starter was working but something was keeping the flywheel from turning.Is there such a thing as the starter needing to be at a certain point in its rotation? Meaning to take it out spin it a little and try again?

 

[leakyfaucet]

Could that mess anything up by rolling it? Its on jackstands right now cause i need to bleed the brakes. What if i pulled the starter out and had it dangling.Wouldnt it spin just sitting there by itself with the key turned?

It won't hurt anything by roll starting it. In case you don't know how, you just get it rolling in 1st gear with the clutch in, and once you're going a decent speed, you slip the clutch out fairly quick and then instantly push it back in. It will feel like you just braked really hard, because all your momentum just went to cranking up your engine.

Obviously you need a manual transmission for this.

Your starter may or may not spin with it dangling there. I wouldn't try it either way, starters have incredible torque and you could very well damage the starter and/or the wiring. Often times, the starter grounds itself where it bolts in, so it might not even work unless it's bolted in.

Either way, if it doesn't spin when it's bolted down, it's not going to spin when it's not, so don't bother.

You need to just calm down and think this through logically. This isn't a really big deal. It's just a starter. This is a common problem.

 

[95EclipseGST]

Should i take out all my spark plugs and rotate the engine by the crank pulley? If that is all smooth...Then it HAS to be the starter right? What about the injector wire switching.It would still turn, rather or not i needed to have those wires switched,right? I dont want to go switching around CAS wiring or injectors if that wouldnt do any good. So its pretty much isolated to the starter if i just hear a click but no turning whatsoever? Well i just drank myself from sober to shitfaced so i guess i will mess with this tommorrow.Thanks for your help leakyfaucet...

 

[leakyfaucet]

I thought maybe since i heard the click that teh starter was working but something was keeping the flywheel from turning.Is there such a thing as the starter needing to be at a certain point in its rotation? Meaning to take it out spin it a little and try again?

If you can crank the engine over with the crank pulley (I'm assuming you're using a breaker bar or something of that sort) then the flywheel is spinning too. That's not the problem. The starter doesn't need to be at a certain point, as long as its teeth are touching the flywheel's teeth.

If it doesn't even attempt to spin, you know it's an electrical problem or the starter is just plain fried.

PS: Injector wiring doesn't have anything to do with the starter.
Yes, this HAS to do with the starter.

 

[leakyfaucet]

Wait, you already said you've spun the engine, right? So you know it's not seized, right?

 

[95EclipseGST]

The engine feels great to turn it over with a breaker bar. Feels really nice like this 6bolt thing should fire right up and shoot my ass down the street ...but i guess not.I am pulling the starter tommorrow and try to bench test it or something. It worked when i took it out.I*m trying to remember right.Was there a way that i could have hooked up the starter wrong? It was just a plug right? or wires already coming straight out of it? Is your faucet still leaking? Ahh too much time on a pos dsm will leave you with no time to fix your faucet!

 

[leakyfaucet]

I don't know if it's a plug or not, since I've never had to mess with a DSM starter. On most other cars I've had to mess with, it's 2 or 3 wires.

If the solenoid is wired like most other cars, it would be very easy to mess up the wiring.

 

[95EclipseGST]

Thanks for yoru time leakyfaucet i will be under the car all day tommorrow until it gets fixed.Thanks for the help

 

[WhiteCloud]

Have someone jump your car, or put it on a charger. This happened to me after a few days of working on the car with a 1-month old battery. If the car has been sitting a while, the battery could be too drained. It's easy and a worthwhile first step to take.

 

[95EclipseGST]

I went and bought a brand new battery and checked it for a good charge.Definately not the battery.Its also an optima yellow top.

 

[leakyfaucet]

Thanks for yoru time leakyfaucet i will be under the car all day tommorrow until it gets fixed.Thanks for the help

No problem, I enjoy helping people when I can. Did you ever try roll starting it, yet?