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10.8@125 EVOIII 16g Auto no intercooler

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LucasEnglish

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Dec 23, 2004
Washougal, Washington
Not sure if the NW guys check out the Drag section much but we have been playing with the DSM Auto. This weekend TJ when 11.0 and go the boot so I took it down for our last track day of the year to see if I could pull off the elusive 10sec pass. Took me about 5 pass to get the right launch to make the pass happen. Since we are a 1 shot wonder with no cage.

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Thought you guys might like to check some thing a bit out of the norm. This is my main Tech TJ project. Its a 92 TSI with stock 160k bottom end and stock automatic transmission.

We had it at the track for the 1st time last week on only E98 and a ### 2.5in hot air intake. We were able to pull off a 12.1@115 with crappy 1.9 60ft times.

This week we got the meth injection on and built a nice 3in cold air intake and spent some more time on the launch tune.

His 1st pass out of the night he went 11.4 on the breaks. So he got his warning then for no cage, but was able to keep racing. He was running 11.8s most of the night letting off at the 1/8th trying to get the tuned dialed for the glory pass.

YouTube - Talon AWD TSI 10.8@125 EVOIII 16G Automatic E85

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I think the car has a 10.8-10.9 in it with the current mods and maybe a 10.5 with a few more mods on the 16g.

The stock auto with the line pressure mod now has about 30 passes under its belt and no sine of giving up yet.

mods
-Stock 160k bottom end
-HKS 272s EVO valve springs light head work ARP studs metal hg
-MHI EVO III 16 ported to the max for flow and to make creep holds 30+ psi to 8k
-3in hot pipe with no intercooler
-880cc injectors
-E98
-2000cc of meth injection
-3in cold air intake
-MAFT pro 3bar map
-MBC set to 25psi and creeps to 30+ by 5500rpm
-3in DP no exhaust
-DSM chips chip with 8500rpm revlimit

Reasons for no intercooler
-Different
-less weight
-We feel with the Ethanol and Methanol there might not be much of a gain

Car weights in at 2980 with me in it.

Here are some pics of the car, slip and setup
 

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From the stuff I have seen you guys do in the years by its good to see you doing some innovative shit.
 
I'm surprised this thread didn't get more attention. I was talking to Jeff Bush about this car just the other day. Congrats on such an awesome pass guys.
 
You go Lucas and all the guys at the shop. Keep breakin records. And tearin up those clark county roads.:thumb:
 
Thanks guys.

We should have the car on the Dyno early this year. There have been est of 380-400whp through the Auto whcih would equal around 450whp if this combo was in a 5spd car.
 
You should post this in the Alky Section to get more attention to it, awesome job. :thumb:

Many will claim you're nuts for ditching the intercooler but right on, E98 and Meth Injection will do the job and make the 16g more efficient.

63cc min is equal to 1 gph so you're running 31.7 Gph Nozzle!!!!OMG
Looks like they're twin M15's, nice, this will also help you on the injector sizing since you'll need a lot of E98.

A stock converter or restalled stock converter?
Not even a shift kit? Damn!!

What Maf are you running and any pics of the filter area of the cold air kit?
You can get greedy and go Mafless and gain more efficiency out of the 16G.:sneaky:

Ever consider an M1 Pre Turbo Injection nozzle?
You'd gain around 1psi of boost by making the comp wheel more efficient and help lower the charge a tad, I have it FWIW.

Man this is the way to go, I'd consider scraping my turbo/FMIC setup for this. :talon::dsm:
 
Manual-Auto for drag racing and auto-manual if you want to auto-x, fun dd, or just have a fun get around car.
 
Totally stock trans with blue wire mod. Which is just like a shift kit.

Have talked about pre turbo jet but have not done it yet. Yes 2m15s with allkeycontroll pump. So about 200psi.
 
bigboostevo1 said:
i think that you took those time slips from another car . its not posable
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Apparently you don't know much about English racing. I'm guessing the video is fake too?f

LucasEnglish said:
Totally stock trans with blue wire mod. Which is just like a shift kit.

Have talked about pre turbo jet but have not done it yet. Yes 2m15s with allkeycontroll pump. So about 200psi.
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Do you have the link to a thread with more info on this? My auto downshifts waaay to much, it will drop into second and just bounce of the rev limiter... maybe the last owner tried something like this?
 
Yes its the same car.
 
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