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11-06-2011, 05:14 PM
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best dsm spark plugs?
What are the best sparkplugs for dsm? i plan on boostin to around 23psi after all my mods are done.
What are the best for around that psi and what should they be gapped to?
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11-06-2011, 05:26 PM
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I cannot believe no one has asked this question before.
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11-06-2011, 05:32 PM
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What are the best sparkplugs for dsm? i plan on boostin to around 23psi after all my mods are done.
What are the best for around that psi and what should they be gapped to?
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You should use the search feature. Its all here on this forum:
2) Change spark plugs
- If you have no or mild mods get - NGK BPR6ES or Autolite 63 Copper
- If you have moderate mods get - NGK BPR7ES or Autolite 62 Copper
- If you have a LOT of mods get - NGK BPR8ES
Gap plugs to 0.028 to 0.031". Use no other plugs. No platinum or dual electrode stuff.
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I cannot believe no one has asked this question before.
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lol
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11-06-2011, 05:37 PM
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i looked but i couldnt find what best plugs are. thats why i asked this
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Let me google that for you
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Funny how thats the first result when you google search
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11-06-2011, 05:38 PM
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didnt check google. checked here.
so the best spark plugs for our cars are 5 bucks a peice? seems a little. odd to me
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11-06-2011, 05:39 PM
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NKG BRP6ES or BPR7ES gap to .28 unless your running higher boost then 18-25. They cost me $1.99 a plug.
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11-06-2011, 05:41 PM
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didnt check google. checked here.
so the best spark plugs for our cars are 5 bucks a peice? seems a little. odd to me
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NGK tried and true, be thankful they are five bucks. 
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11-06-2011, 05:44 PM
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didnt check google. checked here.
so the best spark plugs for our cars are 5 bucks a peice? seems a little. odd to me
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ngk wires too. Its good we can get something for our cars cheap. 
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11-06-2011, 05:48 PM
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ok so now that we got that covered. best spark plug wires?
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Just posted that too
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11-06-2011, 06:14 PM
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lets say its stock right now but i need to buy spark plugs anyway. if i put in NGK BPR8ES the good stuff, will it be bad for the car to have this compared to the bpr6es?
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11-06-2011, 06:18 PM
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lets say its stock right now but i need to buy spark plugs anyway. if i put in NGK BPR8ES the good stuff, will it be bad for the car to have this compared to the bpr6es?
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I wouldnt waste the time and money, your not going to gain hp.
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11-06-2011, 06:19 PM
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lets say its stock right now but i need to buy spark plugs anyway. if i put in NGK BPR8ES the good stuff, will it be bad for the car to have this compared to the bpr6es?
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That implies that you think the stuff that it takes to run 23psi is a lot of mods.
The plugs are $10 for a set. Just get some BPR6ES for now then get some BPR7ES plugs when you start turning the boost up (18psi+).
Please read the spark plug FAQ.
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11-06-2011, 06:19 PM
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and i know, im not doing thsi for any hp gain, i have to buy anyways and woundered if i can just buy the good stuff now or buy the lower till i get higher boost
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11-06-2011, 06:35 PM
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their just called ngk? nothing fancy with numbers?
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The NGK spark plug wire part numbers are: - ME64 (stock #9634) for 1g 4G63's
- ME67 (stock #8097) for 1g 4G37's
- ME77 (stock #8100) for 2g 4G63's
- ME83 (stock #8103) for 2g 420A's
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lets say its stock right now but i need to buy spark plugs anyway. if i put in NGK BPR8ES the good stuff, will it be bad for the car to have this compared to the bpr6es?
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Yes. Use the proper plugs for your application. As mentioned, they are ~$10 for a set. So if you are running stock or near stock boost, then get the BPR6ES plugs. Later when you are running 20+ psi you can get a set of BPR7ES for another measly $10.
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can you please explain what you mean by foul?
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Frequently Asked Questions
A spark plug is considered fouled when the insulator nose at the firing tip becomes coated with a foreign substance such as fuel, oil or carbon. This coating makes it easier for the voltage to follow along the insulator nose, leach back down into the metal shell and ground out rather than bridging the gap and firing normally.
Many factors can contribute to spark plug fouling. The air/fuel ratio may be too rich as a result of incorrect carburetor adjustment or a poorly performing fuel injection system. Worn piston rings or valve seals may allow too much oil to leak into the combustion chamber, leading to oil fouling. The ignition system may not be performing properly. Prolonged idling or continuous low-speed driving may keep the spark plug from reaching its optimum operating temperature. Using too cold a spark plug can lead to the same problem. Finally, a dirty air cleaner can create a too-rich condition which can lead to fouling.
Fuel, oil and carbon fouling can all be the result of different causes but, once a spark plug is fouled, it will not provide adequate voltage to the firing tip and that cylinder will not fire properly. In many cases, the spark plug cannot be cleaned sufficiently to restore normal operation. Therefore, it is recommended that a plug be replaced once it is fouled.
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and i know, im not doing thsi for any hp gain, i have to buy anyways and woundered if i can just buy the good stuff now or buy the lower till i get higher boost
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I don't know why you are calling the colder heat range plugs "the good stuff". The plugs that fit your application are the "good stuff" for you.
The reason that just about everyone here preaches the wonders of NGK spark plugs and wires is because they are what were used by Diamond Star Motors on these cars from the factory, they work great, are readily available just about anywhere, are available in a wide range of options, and are very affordable.
Hope this helps!
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