420a 5 speed mods?

2ndgen420 · 08-08-2012, 04:20 PM

ok i have a 98 eagle talon esi 5 speed that i love and its pretty quick but i wanna go fast but im on a budget so im posting to get some info on cheap mods to get some more ponys out of my 420 i already have the cold air intake exhaust and ngk plugs so ### anyone and everyone leave your thoughts here....

JosephMiranda · 08-08-2012, 04:41 PM

Buy an unorthodox crank pulley around 250 bucks that should help you out.

Arnie · 08-08-2012, 04:44 PM

Headers and a chip.

96' Eclipse GS · 08-08-2012, 05:21 PM

Tech Guide: 2G 420A Power Upgrades - DSMtuners

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91stocker · 08-08-2012, 05:23 PM

Please dont waste your money

1999 Mitsubishi Eclipse RS - Power Pages - Import Tuner magazine

Silver99OZ · 08-08-2012, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 91stocker

Please dont waste your money

1999 Mitsubishi Eclipse RS - Power Pages - Import Tuner magazine

I second this, dont waste your money. I have been there done that. I have all the bolt on mods for the 420A and there are not any performance gains to be made.

BoostedPhoenix · 08-08-2012, 05:55 PM

Only power adder worth doing on a 420a is a turbo, and that is not just a bolt on, or cheap.

jayson427 · 08-08-2012, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Arnie

Headers and a chip.

the chips dont do anything. if you want actual power on a budget you wont get much. you have to build the motor internally and do alot of mods. unless you turbo it, its really hard to make 200hp unless you invest alot of money like i did.

DSMBanditFZ6 · 08-08-2012, 06:27 PM

Get on the laughing gas and call it a day, but.I doubt that's cheap. Want to go fast? It will cost money. How fast do you want to go?

2ndgen420 · 08-09-2012, 04:28 PM

so do you guys think it would be easier to just, go to the junkyard and buy a 4g63 and tear it apart. Then completely rebuild that and swap them out?

BoostedPhoenix · 08-09-2012, 04:32 PM

Cover you butt you are about to get ripped.

2ndgen420 · 08-09-2012, 04:34 PM

how?

BoostedPhoenix · 08-09-2012, 04:37 PM

This has been asked ALOT read the 420a frequently answered questions.

420a Engine Swaps

2ndgen420 · 08-09-2012, 04:40 PM

ok i know this i was asking if their were any mods worth doing to my 420, and their is not so i was asking if i should go with the 4g63 or maybe the v6 or any other motor! so your not making any sence...

BoostedPhoenix · 08-09-2012, 04:46 PM

You stated you are on a budget, there is nothing budget about swapping a 4g63 into a 420a car, they are not similar, they are not interchangeable without changing everything in front of the firewall and several things behind it, including but not limited to fabricating and welding new motor mounts. The only thing similar that can be swapped is a 2.4 from a chrysler Stratus/Cirrus/Breeze/Caravan from 95-01. Even that involves fabrication of the passenger motor mount and the oil pan to put it simply.

2ndgen420 · 08-09-2012, 04:49 PM

ok i didnt understand what you were getting at and i didnt mean just to go buy the motor tom and rebuild it the next day and put it in lol, this will take a while but its that hard to pull a 2nd gen tsi motor and drop it into a 2nd gen esi body?

honda_burner · 08-09-2012, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by 2ndgen420

ok i didnt understand what you were getting at and i didnt mean just to go buy the motor tom and rebuild it the next day and put it in lol, this will take a while but its that hard to pull a 2nd gen tsi motor and drop it into a 2nd gen esi body?

Yes.

Blue Talon Boy · 08-09-2012, 04:54 PM

4g63 motors are oriented with the transmission on the passengers side. The 420a is oriented with the transmission on the drivers side. Yes it is possible, but it is NOT budget if you can't weld, grind, and fabricate. Even if you can, it is extremely time consuming.

Silver99OZ · 08-09-2012, 04:55 PM

It does not "drop" in. The turbo cars have a completely different front unibody than the non-turbo models. The frame rails are different, and the motor mounts are in completely different locations.

BoostedPhoenix · 08-09-2012, 04:59 PM

I was looking for a thread about a guy that used a GS shell to transfer all the parts from his rusty TSi into. Cant seem to find it, but the bottom line is unless you are very, and I mean VERY skilled with grinding and fabricating, then dont waste your time even thinking about it.

Edit: Found it

Hey this guy seems to think its easy, just browse through that. Just incase you dont read it all, he is not taking apart the interior just for fun, you have to swap the wiring harness from front to rear to complete this swap.

2ndgen420 · 08-09-2012, 05:06 PM

ok thank you guys so much cus i would of tried lol and failed... but im new to dsm's i was a honda guy but wanted to go faster so went to the only thing that made since DSM... so looks like i need to sell my 98 esi and look for anything tsi,gsx,gst

BoostedPhoenix · 08-09-2012, 05:37 PM

Short answer, yes. That is if you are looking for budget speed.

jayson427 · 08-09-2012, 05:43 PM

or you can just put like 150 shot of nitrous to your motor!! but it wont last to long lol if you really want to make horse power then yes get out of the 420a. i only did it because i wanted a challenge and something different. plus at the time i didnt care about spending money.

Aproductions · 08-09-2012, 05:46 PM

I dont understand why people don't just cut the whole front end off and swap it.

my GST was smashed so I took the GSX I parted out and used the front off of that.

I don't see why everyone just doesn't do that. I mean if there happened to be one in the junkyard or something because otherwise they would just take the gst/gsx.

Chrispy0530 · 08-09-2012, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by 2ndgen420

ok thank you guys so much cus i would of tried lol and failed... but im new to dsm's i was a honda guy but wanted to go faster so went to the only thing that made since DSM... so looks like i need to sell my 98 esi and look for anything tsi,gsx,gst

Or, keep it as a DD and buy yourself a GS-T/X // TSi later down the line when your ready for it. If it ever breaks down ( which it does happen! ), you have the ESi to back you up.

420a's are really nice DD's. Horribly performance wise, but very nice on the MPG side. Been loving mine for two weeks now.

2ndgen420 · 08-09-2012, 05:55 PM

Great idea to keep as my DD, and i'll just start saving up for something turbo. Any one live around Indiana, that knows where to get a turbo Mits/Talon?

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Originally Posted by Aproductions

I dont understand why people don't just cut the whole front end off and swap it.

my GST was smashed so I took the GSX I parted out and used the front off of that.

I don't see why everyone just doesn't do that. I mean if there happened to be one in the junkyard or something because otherwise they would just take the gst/gsx.

Are you kidding me? I mean i bought mine with front end damage, and had to cut a piece of core support out and weld new in. But cut the whole front end off!

jayson427 · 08-09-2012, 06:23 PM

96 420a with a built n/a motor check it out! - YouTube

mabe this will give you some inspiration!! this is a video of my car and im still going to pull more power out of it when i get the chance but for an all motor car in 110 degree weather its not bad. i didnt even launch hard either haha

2ndgen420 · 08-09-2012, 06:28 PM

HHHHMMMM, well what can i get to pull every pony outta my 420, just tell me anything/everything to maxx her out besides nos.

and whats up with that idle?!?!

jayson427 · 08-09-2012, 06:38 PM

my car idles like that because of the egr delete that i did. which at the time i didnt know my idle issue till later down the road. and go look at my mods on my profile. theres alot you can do but its not cheap. if i would of built a gsx i would have way more horse power vers the money i spent on my 420a but i knew that going into my project.

2ndgen420 · 08-09-2012, 07:01 PM

+1 ^ Bahahahaha