Time to choose a radiator and I need your help!

DSM_Newblet · 08-06-2012, 12:13 AM

I have made up my mind I'm am ordering a radiator tonight! My HP goal is 350-400 max hp. I'm in 120 degree weather. I am going to be using after maket fans as well with shrouds. What radiator would you recommend?

3kgt2nv · 08-06-2012, 12:15 AM

mishimoto makes a nice drop in alum radiator that you can get a prefit shroud with 2 slim fans.

maperformance.com often runs specials on all the mishimoto line of products so take a look in the vendor special page or pm nate from map to see if he can hook you up.

clipto · 08-06-2012, 12:18 AM

Cxracing aluminim radiator $80 shipped eBay use stock fan. Just run 50/50 coolant and water wetter you will be good. That's what I run same metal or aluminum i should say lol as mishimoto half the price for the name if you wanna say mishimoto is a brand lol.

DSM_Newblet · 08-06-2012, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by clipto

Cxracing aluminim radiator $80 shipped eBay use stock fan. Just run 50/50 coolant and water wetter you will be good. That's what I run same metal or aluminum i should say lol as mishimoto half the price for the name if you wanna say mishimoto is a brand lol.

I won't have room for stock fans or else I would use them lol. you wouldn't happen to have a link to that radiator do you? I can't find it anywhere

95'RS-T · 08-06-2012, 01:02 AM

I would much rather have the Mishimoto over the CXracing radiator. However money was tight at the time and I had a hole in My stock raditator and needed one quick! I ended up with the CXracing one from eBay. All in all it's a pretty well constructed radiator and the price was appealing to me as it was 40-50 dollars cheaper then a stock replacement! Anyhow the point I'm trying to make is, one problem I personally ran into was cooling fan placement. My stock fan was too big and I didn't have the cash at the time for a slim fan. I ended up one day deciding to just fill the radiator and take the car for a drive. To my surprise this radiator kept my temp level lower then normal range after a full hour of driving and while idling it moved to normal and never went higher than that. It's a pretty decent radiator if you need one I would reccomend it to anyone!

3kgt2nv · 08-06-2012, 01:14 AM

MAPerformance Mishimoto parts for DSM

ive used a cx racing radiator on a different car and had it start weeping from the edges after about a month.

may have gotten a bad one but im not the kind of guy to try buying a cheap product twice and hope its good. personally i would rather spend a couple extra bucks to support out vendors and get a product with a lifetime warranty even if the car is in an accident.

tkelly27 · 08-06-2012, 01:35 AM

Scirocco radiator. Even if you took away all the good aspects of how much better it fits, the double pass design seems to help it cool better. I've been running my car without a fan, and I'm pretty impressed. I don't advise that you do that.

VW Golf MK3 radiator? Like Scirocco radiator, but longer.

The units in the audi 5 cylinder cars are similar

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3048/...819f73ca_o.jpg

PFC_CiarlilloM · 08-06-2012, 01:44 AM

Budget radiator;
CXRacing Radiator 4G63/T Eclipse 95-99 Laser + 12" fans | eBay

Other choices;

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MISHIMOTO 95-99 Eclipse Racing Radiator+Fan Shroud 2G | eBay

Side note: If you have an auto make sure to check to see if the auto transmission hardline (I believe) runs into the radiator or if runs into a separate cooler because almost all of the aftermarket radiators are for M/T, and don't have that provision. I've read that some 2g A/T lines do run into the radiator, and some don't. Someone correct me if this is wrong please.
(automatic transmission with manual radiator?)

Lastly, the stock radiator fans put out around 1600CFM just to give you a number to compare to the slim fans.

clipto · 08-06-2012, 02:01 AM

If have an auto trans might as well get a tranny cooler too so don't have to worry about those lines running through the radiator and well keep your trans from getting to hot lol.

jcart953 · 08-06-2012, 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by PFC_CiarlilloM

I've read that some 2g A/T lines do run into the radiator, and some don't. Someone correct me if this is wrong please.

I've heard the same, but mine doesnt

LandoAWD · 08-06-2012, 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by clipto

Just run 50/50 coolant and water wetter you will be good.

In Phoenix? 80/20 + additive, IMO. I ran 80/20 and we get below freezing.

If you get a shrouded kit from a vendor, note that the slim fans most come with are anemic. Invest in good fans, or trim the OEM shrouds to fit.

DSM_Newblet · 08-06-2012, 09:25 PM

I decided upon feedback from this and other threads to go with the cxracing radiator with 2 12in slim fits and shroud for $270. It will be here Friday and I have very high hopes it will solve my overheating problem. If it doesn't the next step is ducting and an evo style hood and maybe cut into my bumper.

I will also be running 70water/30coolant and may consider the additive but I've never had any luck with any type of additive in the past....

LandoAWD · 08-07-2012, 05:23 AM

those fans will disappoint. I had the same setup and would have killed for some SPAL units.

liquidsilver · 08-07-2012, 06:36 AM

I agree. I think they make a good radiator. Get some good fans.

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Originally Posted by tkelly27

Scirocco radiator. Even if you took away all the good aspects of how much better it fits, the double pass design seems to help it cool better. I've been running my car without a fan, and I'm pretty impressed. I don't advise that you do that.

VW Golf MK3 radiator? Like Scirocco radiator, but longer.

The units in the audi 5 cylinder cars are similar

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3048/...819f73ca_o.jpg

This is sick. On the 2gs, there is a cooler at that location. Not sure what it's for but aren't the 1gs set up the same way? Do you have to remove this?

dsmgabe · 08-07-2012, 07:52 AM

Just get any ebay radiator and run your factory fans, thats all you need for your goal. SAVE the money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LandoAWD · 08-07-2012, 07:54 AM

Ebay still doesn't make any products. True story.

DSM's 4 life · 08-07-2012, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by LandoAWD

Ebay still doesn't make any products. True story.

haha this is true

DSM_Newblet · 08-07-2012, 11:07 AM

Well it is already on it's way. I have heard really good things about this radiator but not so much on the fans. I will see how they hold up and if they don't then I will order better ones. Can anyone tell me how to monitor my engine temp to the degree?

LandoAWD · 08-07-2012, 11:08 AM

You can monitor coolant temp with any logger, which I'm sure you already bought...riiiight?

DSM_Newblet · 08-07-2012, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by LandoAWD

You can monitor coolant temp with any logger, which I'm sure you already bought...riiiight?

yes I have DSMlink but have not busted it out yet and have no idea how to use it lol

DSMnOOb00 · 08-07-2012, 12:53 PM

I got the cheapest aluminum radiator I could find on ebay, added a shourd. I love my setup!

turboglenn · 08-07-2012, 01:14 PM

If you want a radiator for looks and status that's fine but i live in nebraska where it's been 100 steadily for the last 2 months, (indexes are higher and humidy is terrible) and what makes a cooling system work aside from proper filling and burping is the STOCK fans, i've been there and done that on every other thing to try and i'm back to both stock fans and radiator never get over 195 in NORMAL driving with the AC on (sometimes might tough 200 if i don't turn fans on in time, they're on toggle) and i run a 180* t-stat... my normal temps on a 90* day are about 178-185* until i'm at a light or getting on it hard and go up to maybe 210 range on a really hard 1-4 pull... the oem fans cool best because thye are shrouded, slim fans onlu pull from less than half the radiator becayse they don't pull in the center where they have no blade area and thy don't pull through where the corners of the radiator are

i make 482 reliably, blew trans at 522 on dyno a month ago, and i don't have cooling issues, so think about those things before thinking you 'need" a aluminum radiator, they just make it harder oto fit fans and turbos IMO, I run an HX40/35 hybrid on t3 manifold and it clears perfect

timsturbotalon · 08-07-2012, 01:23 PM

i have the cx racing radiator with stock fans. works great even with the front mount.

turboglenn · 08-07-2012, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by timsturbotalon

i have the cx racing radiator with stock fans. works great even with the front mount.

what turbo and manifold? my CX aluminum rad is now on a friends broken down GST ebcause it wouldn't fit back with stock fans on a tnetics manifold and t3/to4e 57 trim wihtout slim lines on it.. but maybe stock manifold and such makes a change, but i went t3 before i had 30k miles on my car, and stand alone at 24k miles

chinola69 · 08-07-2012, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by LandoAWD

those fans will disappoint. I had the same setup and would have killed for some SPAL units.

Does spal make a shroud for the 2g? And how do you feel about the Flex-a-Lite fans/shroud?

Don't care much for my current set up but needed to get something fast was looking at the FAL.

snowborder714 · 08-07-2012, 02:32 PM

This unit is really nice. Shroud seals off really well to radiator and the fans flow very well.
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(Note: I bought the universal model they had and just had to hack it up a bit to fit around the in/out on the radiator, as well as fab up some small mounting brackets.)

'97boostinGST · 08-07-2012, 02:54 PM

I'm using a Mizu with 2 12" China fans and I'm suffering pretty damn bad!
I'm seeing 200*+ at 70ish* weather just crusing. I'll probably have to look into that Flex-a-Lite solution.

chinola69 · 08-07-2012, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by '97boostinGST

I'm using a Mizu with 2 12" China fans and I'm suffering pretty damn bad!
I'm seeing 200*+ at 70ish* weather just crusing. I'll probably have to look into that Flex-a-Lite solution.

I have the same ones hate them.

'97boostinGST · 08-07-2012, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by chinola69

I have the same ones hate them.

same radiator, fans or both? lol

tkelly27 · 08-07-2012, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by liquidsilver

This is sick. On the 2gs, there is a cooler at that location. Not sure what it's for but aren't the 1gs set up the same way? Do you have to remove this?

There is an oil cooler on the 1Ga (90-91) and a loop for the power steering, and the AC condenser goes there too. I extended the lines for the oil cooler and put it on the drivers side vent, got rid of power steering (although you can just move the loop) and never had AC. You can keep the AC with a FMIC and a Scirocco rad.

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h3...1-06114429.jpg

The rad is installed in that picture. That was more to show how the a/w fits in there. With a 2G manifold and B16g the closest the turbo gets to the radiator is about 7" Doesn't seem like a lot, but measure it in stock format. I wouldn't have it any other way.