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07-16-2012, 08:05 PM
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From: Newman Ca, California
Registered: May 2012
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GSX wont go past 40mph
so today i was comin home fine from work and the car drove good. then a couple hours later i went to drive the car to pic up my kids from the sitter the car would not go past 40MPH. when i would come to a complete stop for the lights or stop signe my car would just die then i would start it back up and go but it sounded like my car was farting through the first 2 gears then when i hit third it get to 35mph then do the same sound so i was driving in 4th gear at 40MPH.
Also my car when i turn the ignition to the on position the car shows boost being halfway. and when i would rev the car up car doesnt sound like its boosting and it shoots black smoke.
Car
98 GSX
Mods
16g turbo
evo 9 FMIC
Dejon intake with apexi filter
also have a manual boost controller
thanks for all the help in advance i called the company i got my turbo from and they are sending me a new one i should have it by thursday.
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07-16-2012, 08:18 PM
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From: South Jersey, New Jersey
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More than likely a boost leak, there is also a possibility of the ignition control module being bad. I had the same symptoms with no boost leaks, turned out to be the ICM (also called the transistor).
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1995 Eagle Talon TSI FWD
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07-16-2012, 08:27 PM
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From: Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
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I forgot to plug in my maf plug one time and could not go above 30. Check it out.
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07-16-2012, 08:29 PM
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From: South Jersey, New Jersey
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It should be bolted onto the intake manifold, this is what it will look like:
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1995 Eagle Talon TSI FWD
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07-16-2012, 08:43 PM
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From: Los Altos Hills, California
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Also check your Throttle Position Sensor, If it is bad or not calibrated, It will do the same thing.
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07-16-2012, 09:10 PM
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From: Newman Ca, California
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thanks chaos miguel wheres the tps at is that the throttle cable sry im not familiar with the engine much unless its simple bolt on things
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07-16-2012, 11:29 PM
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From: Middlesex, North Carolina
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Im going to agree with the boost leak idea. I burst the coupler on the j-pipe and car wouldn't get ove 20mph full throttle
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07-17-2012, 12:08 AM
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Car: 89 Mirage 63T swap
From: Federal Way, Washington
Registered: Nov 2011
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The black smoke would be from running too rich due to your boost leak.
The maf is good start also.
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89 Mirage 63T swap
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07-17-2012, 03:25 AM
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From: Newman Ca, California
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Im gonna call around today and price out a tps and icm sensors and also the idle air control sensor and ill replace them and make them new instead of worrying if this happens again
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07-17-2012, 03:36 AM
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From: Scott AFB, Illinois
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Have you even done a boost leak test?
Your issue is more than likely to be solved by putting an intercooler hose back on whatever it blew off of, or tracking down a leak.
With out doing that test, chances are you will just be throwing money at nothing.
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07-17-2012, 04:23 AM
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Car: 1997 Talon TSi Spyder
From: ColoradoSprings, Colorado
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That happened to me last year and I ended up having bad compression in all 4 cylinders. May want to do a compression check to be on the safe side.
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'97 Talon TSi Spyder (AWD coming soon)
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07-17-2012, 04:42 AM
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Car: 89 Mirage 63T swap
From: Federal Way, Washington
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Have you even done a boost leak test?
Your issue is more than likely to be solved by putting an intercooler hose back on whatever it blew off of, or tracking down a leak.
With out doing that test, chances are you will just be throwing money at nothing.
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^agreed.
I am sure you have a least some boost leaks weather they are your problem or not they should be addressed, the throttle body is a popular area.
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89 Mirage 63T swap
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07-17-2012, 05:25 AM
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From: Fort Wayne, Indiana
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Dsm's are money pits without diy diagnosing and trouble shooting. Most shops probably don't even know what dsm stands for so BLT that thing already lol
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07-17-2012, 06:39 AM
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From: Milwaukee, Wisconsin
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Are you getting a check engine light? If it were throttle position related, I would most likely throw a code.
Even if it doesn't, they are easy enough to diagnose with a simple multimeter.
OP: Don't start replaceing sensors until you have figured out the problem. You can't just slap a new TPS on the car and call it a day. It has to be calibrated properly, and if you don't calibrate it, and the tps isn't the problem, you will just start burying the problem underneath other problems. There are some good suggestions already posted. I would, in this order
Check codes
Check all connectors
Boost leak test
Compression test
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07-17-2012, 01:48 PM
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From: Ulysses, Pennsylvania
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Very well could be a boost leak, but also just check under the car and make sure all the pipes(intercooling pipe) are hooked up and nice and tight, once one of mine came off and I couldn't go much over 20.
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07-17-2012, 08:06 PM
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From: Newman Ca, California
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so i feel like a real noob here lol. i pulled off my bumper and the shop did a 2 piece piping on my car 2 on each side and they came apart so i am redoing all my piping today and tomorrow and will give you guys all an update and see if it fixes the problem. i hope this does i miss drivin my car.
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07-18-2012, 04:03 AM
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From: colver, Pennsylvania
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^agreed.
I am sure you have a least some boost leaks weather they are your problem or not they should be addressed, the throttle body is a popular area.
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^^ Ditto, ^^
The second day I had my 1G years ago, I had down shifted into high RPM's - call it bad shifting- third to fourth ended up being third to second. It was only for a second but it blew off a vacuum line and blew a coolant line. I had the black smoke issue and could only limp home.
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07-18-2012, 04:08 AM
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From: Scott AFB, Illinois
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so i feel like a real noob here lol. i pulled off my bumper and the shop did a 2 piece piping on my car 2 on each side and they came apart so i am redoing all my piping today and tomorrow and will give you guys all an update and see if it fixes the problem. i hope this does i miss drivin my car.
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OH, imagine that.  Just what EVERYONE was trying to tell you.
Aren't you glad you didn't go throwing money at your car now for no reason.
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07-18-2012, 10:45 AM
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From: Tijeras, New Mexico
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bad turbo?
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Explain this? I've installed a 4g63 NT Header from a 1g on my GSX and drove it daily for almost a year! Car drove just fine and had plenty of power. The ICM (actually named PTU=Power Transistor Unit) could be a massive failure for spark. It is what caused my car to blow up coil packs left and right till I figured it out and replaced it.
You know boost leaks like a damaged coupler are kinda scary sometimes, esp. when your in boost and you pop one off, they can make a pretty loud pop and then you get that "oh shit!" feeling like death is on your door step! lol I've had IC Pipes blow up soo hard they damaged bumper.
Hope that was the fix and you got your car back. Sounds like it is, cause the car can hardly run without some sort of Air Metering Sensor.
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1997 Eclipse GSX - Minden Pearl Silver
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07-18-2012, 11:00 AM
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From: El Paso, Texas
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Explain this? I've installed a 4g63 NT Header from a 1g on my GSX and drove it daily for almost a year! Car drove just fine and had plenty of power. The ICM (actually named PTU=Power Transistor Unit) could be a massive failure for spark. It is what caused my car to blow up coil packs left and right till I figured it out and replaced it.
You know boost leaks like a damaged coupler are kinda scary sometimes, esp. when your in boost and you pop one off, they can make a pretty loud pop and then you get that "oh shit!" feeling like death is on your door step! lol I've had IC Pipes blow up soo hard they damaged bumper.
Hope that was the fix and you got your car back. Sounds like it is, cause the car can hardly run without some sort of Air Metering Sensor.
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LMAO!!! I know that feeling all to well. I get scared shitless everytime that happens.
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07-18-2012, 11:08 AM
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From: Montreal, QC, Canada
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More than likely a boost leak, there is also a possibility of the ignition control module being bad. I had the same symptoms with no boost leaks, turned out to be the ICM (also called the transistor).
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beat me to it lool
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