Bad turbo?

[Alex Bland]

I just got my 1991 eagle talon tsi awd and at first it ran bad because i think it was sitting for a year. Now that it runs better i took it for a test drive and found out that when i floor it it smokes blue out the back. This was the 2nd day after pulling it out and the first run it has had in a while. could this be a bad turbo? the turbo is working fine it looks like it go's right up to about 14psi. Could this smoke just be because it has not been ran for a while? Thanks

 

[Jeff99GS]

Take the Air intake pipe off the Turbo and try to wiggle the Shaft in the turbo....if you have a lot of movement then your Turbo needs rebuilt.

You can also try a Compression test on the engine to see what condition the Piston Rings are in. They can also cause blue smoke

Change your oil just to be safe since you just bought the car

 

[strykout88]

the three main posibilities for blue smoke are, blow by(bad piston rings), the turbo, and if neither of those two after you test for them, it could also be your valve stem seals.

 

[Alex Bland]

i just drove my car from acrost my field then when i stoped i saw blue smoke comeing out pritty good amount. is this bad turbo or piston rings? eagle talon tsi awd

 

[r1991_4g63t]

could be both, do a compression check and check the turbo for shaft play

 

[FLASH1970]

If compression test comes out good, and the turbo doesn't have a lot of shaft play, pull off the exhaust manifold to see if any of the exhaust ports have oil in them. If they do, then I would say it's valve seals. I'm going through the same thing right now (my problem is valve seals).

 

[JDMath]

its just when idling?? its you valve seal, if its when open throttle its probbly yoour turbo seal!

 

[Alex Bland]

its when i push on the gas for sure. im nervos to take off the vale thats on the turbo (im only 17)### i dont want to not be able to put it back on for some reason. is it bad to run it like it is because i could just iqnore it for now ?

 

[fatherbubble]

check your turbo oil lines the return might be cluged up or you might of bent them going ther the field. You could of hit something u didnt see like a pipe.

 

[Alex Bland]

no its a open field i idnt hit anything

 

[Alex Bland]

Ok so i know this bad seals. well i dont know but evryone says that. So its 14b turbo should i keep it and try to fix it or just find a new one? (1991 eagle talon tsi awd)

 

[pj91gsx]

Thats your decision. Check out Vfaq and check out the turbo rebuild. Or you can just get it rebuild. Someone near me rebuilds turbos for about 125 dollars and balances them too. Rebuilding the turbo is the easy part. They must be balance properly with a machine. Though you can balance put a turbo back into balance as best you can if you want to.

 

[Alex Bland]

i live in silverdale, port orchard, ghorst area. and i need to know a good turbo re-build shop. my seals are bad.

 

[droppinbottom]

This search took .08 seconds and netted me 49 different threads to read.

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/search.php?searchid=4935171

 

[droppinbottom]

I would not waste money rebuilding it.

You can buy 14b's all day long for cheap or better yet just drive it the way it is and buy a eIII.

 

[thatblondechik]

Or you could have posted this in the original thread about your turbo...seiously dude...quit flooding the boards please.

 

[thorlief4g63]

check max rpm in bremerton.

 

[Alex Bland]

calm down people dang im just asking questions.

 

[fatherbubble]

I just ran into that problem with my 16G. Its 350 to replace the seals at a shop. I only found one good shop to do it. That was Tim's turbo's

 

[Alex Bland]

think i should just have a shop rebuild mine then?

 

[TxR6guy]

Depends on what your goals are for the car? if you plan on modding it within the next year then i would just buy a used 14b for cheap.

 

[Alex Bland]

when i buy a 14b and people say a little bit of "play room" do you actulee want a little or for it not to move at all? or should i just skip the 14b and get a better one (one that will fit right in) and if so witch one?

 

[Alex Bland]

wait how hard would it be to fit a 20g evo 3 into my eagle talon?
like this
eBay Motors: 1g 2g eclipse talon gst gsx tsi td05 20g turbo charger (item 380044259524 end time Jul-14-08 13:19:04 PDT)

is evo 3 20g better then 14b?

 

[Alex Bland]

ok i saw some stuff and im confused i have a 14b i think because i have a 5 speed (1991 eagle talon tsi awd).
so i was woundering can a 16b just bolt right on because im having a hard time finding a 14b

i have a 14b right?

 

[delta448]

You should have a 14b but you can double check the serial number, or just look at the compressor blades.
A 16G will bolt on no problem, but you may want to port the exhaust mani to match the larger inlet.