could it work

[leathaltsi]

Is it possible to set up a standalone oil management for the turbo with a catch can electric pump filter and cooler. it would keep the turbo cooler and the oil cleaner. You can even test separate oils.

 

[rarson]

Huh? What you're talking about is an oil cooler (the car already comes with one).

A catch can just collects oil from the crankcase vent. That oil never makes its way back into the engine.

 

[leathaltsi]

No I'm talking about a completely separate oil system for the turbo. You take a catch can fill it with any synthetic oil you choose run lines to an electric pump, in line filter, cooler, turbo back to catch can you can even set a timer on it so the engine doesn't have to run with a turbo timer just the pump

 

[rarson]

But there wouldn't be any advantage to running a separate oil system. You might as well just use the engine oil.

The Porsche 944 Turbo had a pump that circulated oil after the engine was shut off. It's been done before, but what's the point? With a watercooled turbo, you don't need the oil continuously circulating if you just drive it easy for a little while before you shut it off.

 

[leathaltsi]

engine oil causes allot of impurities in oil if you have a separate oiling system for the turbo it can make a difference on the life of the turbo and how it performs and it doesn't cost that much and is not that big of a project.

 

[rarson]

Please post the data that supports these claims. Otherwise, I'm just going to keep putting my money towards making my car faster.

The average person is going to either sell their car or change the turbo before it dies. Oh, and Mitsu turbos are easy to rebuild, too.

 

[red97tib]

My brother and I are making this kind of system as we speak for our twin turbo camaro. The turbos aren't water cooled so we are making a seperate system for them. Of course ours isn't going to be fancy, we will be happy if this thing gets down the track without bursting into a ball of flames, even happier if we can pass tech with the amount of rust this heap has.

 

[rarson]

Now, that makes sense. I can see that being a big benefit on an oil-cooled turbo (or two).

 

[leathaltsi]

No by all means I am not making claims its an idea to be discussed and it is possible there are some gains from it. The reason i ask is I'm working on a turbo project on my friends slammed ranger and my supra. wich are n/t and just like red97tib's project. Its a pain thinking about engine oiling systems. Its possible but my ? is will it help dsms and will it benefit

 

[rarson]

Oh okay. Well, my personal opinion is that with a water-cooled turbo, there's really nothing to be gained. Unless you want to be able to run your turbo hard and shut off the engine right away, the turbo should be okay. That's not to say I haven't seen Mitsubishi turbos with horrible coking and unmoveable impellers, but it's likely that the coking was due to abuse. A turbo timer works well to cool a car off, but the same effect can be had by simply taking it easy during the last few minutes of driving. The water cooling takes the cooling load off the oiling system and should reduce temps in the oil, which would help prevent coking.

I can't remember if the KKK turbo on the 944 Turbo was water-cooled or not. It might not have been. But I think even for that car, the Porsche oiling system was overkill.

If you're ONLY relying on this system for turbo oiling, then that could also actually create potential problems. If you have an electric pump operating it and it fails, then you're probably up **** creek because you're not going to know that it failed until it's too late, unless you have a second oil pressure gauge. When the turbo is getting oil from the engine, then at least you can be fairly sure that it's getting oil as long as the engine has oil pressure.

 

[leathaltsi]

Yeah I understand with it failing your sh*t out of luck its just an idea and no one will know till they try it. but its not a bad idea it needs to be experienced. but my question is the possibilities. What if there is better spool up with lower weight oils compared to engine oil. we are talking about turbo oil vs engine component oil. I would like people to look at it with an open mind and think of the pros and cons because maybe it will be in the future to help us all out.

 

[buddaboost]

Sound like a goos idea but I would not test it on dsm first. Blow up a honda