Biggest tubro i can use on a stock motor

[l3igl3ang]

Yeah whats the biggest best tubro to get on a stock motor? i dont want to have to mod this and mod that to make it work i just need a better tubro that i can bolt on i heard that big28t is a good one which is just a modfied stock tubro is this ture? and any one who knows a cheap place to convert my stock tubro into one of these or where i can by a big28t?

 

[95 gsx]

Is your car totally stock? If not then yes, a bt28 is a good choice as well as a bolt on affair (an install kit is not needed) If this is your first upgrade I would say stop what you're doing and do a little research. A turbo is not a good first mod; you should have all supporting modifications in place before you increase airflow.

By the way, its called a turbo.

 

[GSTeclipse]

1. http://store.forcedperformance.net/...duct_Code=705329-0002&Category_Code=DSM-Turbo

2. http://www.slowboyracing.com/estore/product.php?productid=77&cat=195&page=1

 

[Broke_but_happy]

I didn't care for the t-28, not worth the money in my opinion. If you dont have anyother mods you probably dont need it.

 

[knighteclipse1]

Depends on what your goals are performance wise with your car, alittle more information would help out. Otherwise your asking an open ended question.

 

[Spoolin4Ever]

Is your stock turbo failing?

 

[MelloEclipse]

Yeah whats the biggest best tubro to get on a stock motor? i dont want to have to mod this and mod that to make it work i just need a better tubro that i can bolt on i heard that big28t is a good one which is just a modfied stock tubro is this ture? and any one who knows a cheap place to convert my stock tubro into one of these or where i can by a big28t?

what did you own before this? a honda?



just kidding...but yes it doesn't matter if you don't want to 'mod this and this and this..' if want the power gains, you have to....or....go ahead throw a bigger turbo on it....but you'll be making it work much harder than it could, for less power....

 

[marq95gst]

If you are asking what is the biggest turbo you can throw on without upgrading on the motor, fuel, etc... then it's an evo316g. You can do a minor 190 fuel pump, and free mods and be good to go...even on the stock boost solenoid. Or throw in a mbc and boost gauge and u can run it up to 15 psi for some good times. But if you do not upgrade a thing, and you are totally stock, then the t28 or 16g.

 

[rhamlinii]

GT35r is te biggest and best turbo for a stock motor if your going for most efficent power. ive seen 600 awhp with 35 psi on race gas. 25psi gets you just over 500 awhp aswell.

 

[GSTeclipse]

GT35r is te biggest and best turbo for a stock motor if your going for most efficent power. ive seen 600 awhp with 35 psi on race gas. 25psi gets you just over 500 awhp aswell.

He's not asking whats the biggest turbo he can put on his stock motor ! He is asking whats the biggest turbo he can put on a stock motor without having to upgrade everything around it for the car to make the power or run right becuase with the other mods it would take to run a 35R your looking at a few grand extra vs a T28 - Evo316g where you could get away with it for way less more $$

 

[c4uldr0n]

I agree that the T28 would be the easiest and pretty close to the same power as the E316G... Both will definately max out the stock injectors if the boost it turned up!!

c4

 

[FORMONTOYA]

A T25 (OEM) is the biggest turbo you can put on a stock motor without doing any mods.

Any turbo that is bigger, even a 14B, will require "some" modifications in order to get any noticeable power increases without putting undue stress on the motor and the "systems" around it.

Turbo first is not a sound method for modding a DSM.

 

[jawar666]

A T25 (OEM) is the biggest turbo you can put on a stock motor without doing any mods.

Any turbo that is bigger, even a 14B, will require "some" modifications in order to get any noticeable power increases without putting undue stress on the motor and the "systems" around it.

Turbo first is not a sound method for modding a DSM.

And how much boost does those turbos handle? What's the maximun I mean!

T25............. 14 psi the max?
T28............. 18 psi the max?
Evo 3 16g.... 20 psi the max?

 

[forcefed 95]

idk for sure excatly but a evo3 can go more than 20psi and so can an t-28 but a t-25 i would say 15-16 with ocassional spike to 18 but it falls flat on its face after 5k. but one time for shits and giggles, just so u know the turbo was on it's way turbo heaven so i wanted to see how high be for it over ran it self and i got to about 22psi before it started to cut out. . now i dont ever recomending doing that to anyoneEVER. but it goes to show that every turbo has hidden potential, now how long can it run at 20psi and last thats a different story.

joe

 

[mattdev]

A T25 (OEM) is the biggest turbo you can put on a stock motor without doing any mods.

Any turbo that is bigger, even a 14B, will require "some" modifications in order to get any noticeable power increases without putting undue stress on the motor and the "systems" around it.

Turbo first is not a sound method for modding a DSM.

Listen to his advice.

Do the free mods. Here. The free bcs restrictor removal will give you about 2 psi. Close enough to a new turbo for free.

Or, better yet, pay for a cone filter and gain almost 10HP!!!!!!!

Sorry if I sound like an ass, but this is not the route you want to go. Follow the basic stages here. There are no shortcuts to making power.

 

[FORMONTOYA]

but one time for shits and giggles, just so u know the turbo was on it's way turbo heaven so i wanted to see how high be for it over ran it self and i got to about 22psi before it started to cut out.

And 1 good round of pre-ignition or heavy knock from all that "super heated" air and you would have been replacing the motor as well.

 

[forcefed 95]

And 1 good round of pre-ignition or heavy knock from all that "super heated" air and you would have been replacing the motor as well.

I was runnin 108 not pump gas, and i do got a fmic so that helps alittle with the heat but i had enuff fuel so i was not to worried about it. And i know it was dumb, which is why i even put it bold i wrote never try this.

joe

 

[olmytsi]

And how much boost does those turbos handle? What's the maximun I mean!

T25............. 14 psi the max?
T28............. 18 psi the max?
Evo 3 16g.... 20 psi the max?

Those turbos will make more than that but it is going to be really hot air and you need fuel mods to run thos amounts of boost anyways (specialy 20 psi on a 16g).

I ran a 14b at 21 psi daily for a year or so with a 255 hp fuel pump and a big ass fmic and the car was quick. Some people are running 27-30 psi on evo3 16gs and going 11s.

 

[BrokenTsi]

I ran a 60-1 turbo at 32psi thru the stock engine without blowing it up for a year. OEM head gasket too.

 

[FORMONTOYA]

I ran a 60-1 turbo at 32psi thru the stock engine without blowing it up for a year. OEM head gasket too.

Did you do that with NO SUPPORTING MODS WHAT-SO-EVER??? Which is what the thread starter is asking....."what's the biggest turbo I can put on a stock (2G-7-bolt) motor/no mods?".

 

[flyinghighlm]

So after reading this thread this is what I get, you are a fool to think that you can throw a turbo on and call it good. Also I see you do not know how to manage money, i.e. a new turbo from $400-$800 depending on what you want to blow your motor up with but yet all you need to do is take that $400 invest it in the car, do the free mods and POOF it feels like you have A BIGGER TURBO. There is a reason why the wiseman say what the say (usually) and the stage 1-2-3 process's do work and will continue to work for DSMers

With no money spent and as it was said before the biggest turbo you can safely run is your STOCK ONE

 

[sd_ff22]

With no money spent and as it was said before the biggest turbo you can safely run is your STOCK ONE

WERD

 

[GSTeclipse]

everyone is saying stock turbo is all you can run ...when we don't even know what his current mods are !

Even if he was totally stock a t28 at the same amount of boost would not cause any affects like spark , knock , fuel cut .....how do I know? Been there done that like 5 years ago

 

[FORMONTOYA]

everyone is saying stock turbo is all you can run ...when we don't even know what his current mods are !

He already said he wants to do NO modifications other than bolting on a bigger turbo. You can look at his "mod list" and see all that he has is a filter.

Even if he was totally stock a t28 at the same amount of boost would not cause any affects like spark , knock , fuel cut .....how do I know? Been there done that like 5 years ago

Just throwing on a T28 without ANY mods what-so-ever will not see much gain, a little, but the same money/effort could be spent better than that.

 

[GSTeclipse]

he said he does not want to mods this or mod that ...thats not saying he does not have some mods already .... is what I am saying !