Possible Jumped Timing

[nbjeter3]

I have a 1990 Talon TSi 2.0L Turbo AWD. About 3 days ago I found I was about a quart low on oil and (dumb move of the day coming up) I put in a quart of oil and didn't tighten the oil Cap down properly and well, anyone on here can verify these things run HIGH oil pressure and the inevitable happened It blew the cap off and sprayed a full quart out... I realized it and replaced the oil but it ran fan. no knocks or taps or pings so I figgered I was ok. Now 2nd dumb move of the day I didn't bother to soak the oil up due to the fact that it was raining for 2 days straight. Well I went ahead and drove it nad promised myself that on the first dry day, I'd soak it up and clean the engine compartment out. Well I drove it for 2 days like that, and last night I drove it home no issues pulled up in my drive and turned it off.

This morning I go outside to head to work and it wouldn't crank. Well I didn't have anytime to Troubleshoot it then, so I hopped in my truck and drove it to work. This Evening I get out there. Clean the oil pull the plugs (some oil had seeped down into there) Regapped them checked all the wires, And Still nothing. It sounded like it was only hitting on one of the cylinders so I looked under the hood again. The Coil pack and power transistor were oil soaked so I replaced those. still nothing. The fuel pump has always been a little screwy every now and then (usually after it hits less than a quarter tank) I'd have to jumpstart the pump using the fuel bypass. Well I decided to try that. Fuel is flowing through the rail, I can hear it. I'm getting spark on all 4 plugs, the only thing I haven't checked there is the injectors. I have to borrow a noid(sp?) light from a friend to check those.

I pulled the timing cover off and set it to TDC and the top gears aren't lining up like the book shows. The Book shows the dowel pins pointing straight up and the timing marks pointed at each other. Mine are about 6 teeth apart from one another. My roommate has a 91 talon TSi with the same motor and he stated that they can be that far off and still be in time. I'm not sure about this.

Now, 3 questions, 1: Can they be that far off and still run? 2:If Not, Has anyone ever seen a DSM belt jump 3 teeth when turning it off? and 3: Are there any other suggestions of things to look at?

Any Input would help.

Thanks all!
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[Defiant]

Most cam belts fail at idle, or when starting, when there's the most load on the belt teeth. Your timing jump is probably only coincidental with the oil spill, and not a effect from that cause. Six teeth is probably enough to have bent valves, particularly with repeated cranking.

The cap falling off had nothing to do with your odd "these things run HIGH oil pressure" declaration (they read high pressure, partly because the sensor is on the oil pump). The crankcase and valve cover spaces are not subject to oil pressure.

 

[nbjeter3]

So The timing marks should Always line up at TDC?

 

[tkelly27]

Once every two revolutions of the crank they should line up exactly. Your's won't. 6 teeth is a bunch. : (

 

[nbjeter3]

Actually its only 3 teeth. 3 on each cam gear. Is that the same thing? Essententially each gear is off by only 3 teeth. I stated 6 because thats how far apart the marks are. Still Bad ? Still Getting plenty of compression on each cylinder as well.

 

[bling5tatus]

Well fix the timing and let us know what happens.