New project, 95 N/T with 1g GS-T Engine, PICS

[awdrocks]

Hi,

I'm recently picking up a DSM. I'm new to this world so any advice would be greatly appreciated. First I would like to know if this is truly a 1g GS-T motor in a 2g GS.

I checked the VIN and it is a 1995 GS. The current owner told me he swapped the motor for a 89-90 GS-T. He said it is a 6 bolt.

He also said the motor dropped right in. In his exact words "the engine fit the car perfect, I just needed to change some parts".

Does this look like a sound car?

These are the mods it has now from what the owner told me, and these pics are how the car sits now:

1995 GS

89-90 gs-t motor swap
fully forged bottom end
pnp'd head
big 16g turbo
venting bov
vrs aluminized 3'' cat back exhaust kit
aluminum flywheel
aluminum crank pulley
apex electronic boost controller
fuel rail and fuel line (not sure if the fuel rail is installed yet)


What im about to purchase
780cc injectors
walbro 255 fuel pump
adjustable fuel regulator
sbr ported exhaust manifold
2g front mount intercooler kit
snow performance meth/water injection
fidenza 4.3 ceramic clutch
sbr lsd diff
awd drivers side axle
dsm link, tuning for 25psi
aem wideband
ngk 2023 plugs gapped @ .026
bfg g force ta drag radials

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[DJYoshaBYD]

i cant see the turbo... it should say 16G on it somewhere.... the swap looks good and its for sure a 4G63t... either way, it looks good to go....

 

[DaFlameking]

yea, i can barely see the turbo, hard to notice though if it really is it where im looking at though. looks 4g63 as well but the fit is tight/perfect but not perfect perfect.

 

[Infiltrate2000]

I recalled that car being on here. The guy I think had an Rdora kit on kit? I think it's the same car. It was a 1g motor, I recalled him having a few electrical problems in the beginning.

 

[oldman]

I checked the VIN and it is a 1995 GS. The current owner told me he swapped the motor for a 89-90 GS-T. He said it is a 6 bolt.

He also said the motor dropped right in. In his exact words "the engine fit the car perfect, I just needed to change some parts".

Something is not right, a 4g63 will not "drop in" into a 2G NT without much fabrication. Are you sure it wasn't a GST with a 6 bolt swap?

 

[Shadow98]

If that really is a GS (n/t) with the 4g63 motor... WOW... Thats almost unheard of. As far as the motor thats for sure is the 4g63 w/ tubro. But why is the turbo oil feed line running across the radiator?

 

[xioca]

If that really is a GS (n/t) with the 4g63 motor... WOW... Thats almost unheard of. As far as the motor thats for sure is the 4g63 w/ tubro. But why is the turbo oil feed line running across the radiator?

It must being going to the oil pump. Is that a common why to rout the line? WTF ( I seriously don't know)

 

[oldman]

It must being going to the oil pump. Is that a common why to rout the line? WTF ( I seriously don't know)

No, not the oil pump, it goes to the oil filter housing.

 

[xioca]

Ah thats what I meant too. Still is that they way it's usually routed?

 

[MrBoxx]

If the oil feed line was too long or had too much slack, he may have run it above the radiator just to keep it from dragging on the ground or snagging on something. Mine's the perfect length to where I can zip-tie it to my fan shroud and it stays clear of everything.

I still say that's a GST with a 6-bolt swap. I'd see if you can find some more VIN's to run and see if they match up to what he says it is. I worry about it being stolen or salvage. To find out if that's really got a 16g in there, take a picture of the compressor wheel and see the the fins are dual-length. And I still don't understand the "AWD driver's side axle" thing.

 

[eldiabloz13]

things i dont like. Silver tubing running across the back of the bay. Near the windshield. The oil line and other black wire crossing it. Missing a manifold bolt. No dipstick....Thats what just sticks out to me. Also that BOV isnt venting and whats up with that awd driver axel?

 

[MrBoxx]

things i dont like.

More things I don't like: MBC tapped from the BOV line, no heat shields on the mani/turbo, appears to have no lower timing cover. awdrocks, please dont take all this as negative criticism. These are just things to notice and correct as soon as you get the car.

Also, if this were a 4g63 swap into the 420a engine bay, I don't think that he'd use the same coolant overflow bottle in the stock location, since I'm pretty sure in a 420a engine bay, there wouldn't be a bracket there. Also, the battery is in the stock GST location, even though in a GS, there's probably not a battery tray there. So, like oldman said, there's not just a plug-and-play issue with the 4g63 into a GS/RS.

 

[RWKustoms]

He also said the motor dropped right in. In his exact words "the engine fit the car perfect, I just needed to change some parts".

I love the way he made it seem like this was an easy job. If he really did this swap then this would be the first time I've actually seen pictures of it done. I couldn't imagine all the work he had to have done.

 

[RWKustoms]

More things I don't like: MBC tapped from the BOV line, no heat shields on the mani/turbo, appears to have no lower timing cover. awdrocks, please dont take all this as negative criticism. These are just things to notice and correct as soon as you get the car.

Also, if this were a 4g63 swap into the 420a engine bay, I don't think that he'd use the same coolant overflow bottle in the stock location, since I'm pretty sure in a 420a engine bay, there wouldn't be a bracket there. Also, the battery is in the stock GST location, even though in a GS, there's probably not a battery tray there. So, like oldman said, there's not just a plug-and-play issue with the 4g63 into a GS/RS.

For a N/T 2G the battery sits on a tray which sits on a bracket mounted over the DS tranny mount so all he had to do was remove that bracket. Also the coolant overflow bottle would've been held on by a bracket that the bottle slides on to and that would've been in the area where the intake filter is.

 

[MrBoxx]

I just think it looks like too complete a job to have just "dropped right in."

 

[hopwoodp]

Hi,

I'm recently picking up a DSM. I'm new to this world so any advice would be greatly appreciated. First I would like to know if this is truly a 1g GS-T motor in a 2g GS.

I checked the VIN and it is a 1995 GS. The current owner told me he swapped the motor for a 89-90 GS-T. He said it is a 6 bolt.

He also said the motor dropped right in. In his exact words "the engine fit the car perfect, I just needed to change some parts".

Does this look like a sound car?

These are the mods it has now from what the owner told me, and these pics are how the car sits now:

1995 GS

89-90 gs-t motor swap
fully forged bottom end
pnp'd head
big 16g turbo
venting bov
vrs aluminized 3'' cat back exhaust kit
aluminum flywheel
aluminum crank pulley
apex electronic boost controller
fuel rail and fuel line (not sure if the fuel rail is installed yet)


What im about to purchase
780cc injectors
walbro 255 fuel pump
adjustable fuel regulator
sbr ported exhaust manifold
2g front mount intercooler kit
snow performance meth/water injection
fidenza 4.3 ceramic clutch
sbr lsd diff
awd drivers side axle
dsm link, tuning for 25psi
aem wideband
ngk 2023 plugs gapped @ .026
bfg g force ta drag radials

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OK, you are from california and you did this swap. So, how do you expect to legally drive this car? You should know that you can't pass smog if this is true, right? Post up the VIN number(minus the serial number). This is hard to believe that this was not a GS-T to begin with. I would be truly shocked if indeed that was a GS before and a turbo motor was swapped in.

I'm not trying to be negative or anything like that. I just see that you are a new member and may not know or understand these things.

But, if indeed what you are saying is true then, great job and good luck smogging it.

 

[oldman]

I'm pretty sure it's a gst, look at the upper motor mount, looks stock to me.

 

[hopwoodp]

I'm pretty sure it's a gst, look at the upper motor mount, looks stock to me.

I totally agree with you. This just doesn't make any sense. Look at the way all the stuff in mounted in the engine bay. Someone is either being misled or is misleading.

 

[oldman]

The guy swapped in the AC also!!!

 

[MrBoxx]

That's why I'm saying it's too perfect, and also why I advise checking to make sure all the numbers match up to make sure nothing criminal is going on.

Edit: Of course, now I remember that for the numbers to match up, it would have to be the factory engine.... Sometimes I think too fast.

 

[eldiabloz13]

i still cant get over that missing dipstick.

 

[talontd92tsi]

i still cant get over that missing dipstick.

i just noticed that as well as the missing manifold.-head bolt, theres a missing manifold-turbo bolt

 

[awdrocks]

I recalled that car being on here. The guy I think had an Rdora kit on kit? I think it's the same car. It was a 1g motor, I recalled him having a few electrical problems in the beginning.

Wow thanks for all the responses everyone.

Don't know if thats the same guy, or if its a Rdora kit. I don't even know what that is. It might be the same guy though. Ill ask him if hes a member here.

 

[awdrocks]

Something is not right, a 4g63 will not "drop in" into a 2G NT without much fabrication. Are you sure it wasn't a GST with a 6 bolt swap?

The first time I talked to him over the phone he didnt tell me it was a GS. I then asked him for the VIN and I looked it up... and it came out like a 95 GS. I then asked him and he said yes, it is a GS with a 89-90 GST motor.

Here is the VIN:

4A3AK44Y5SE108252
http://www.carfax.com/cfm/check_order.cfm?VIN=4A3AK44Y5SE108252&PopUpStatus=0

He also wrote on an email:

"Unfortunately I feel bad selling it because I built this car myself.Is like my
son, but I have to sell it. I'm into racing and I built it to race."

I also asked him specifically if it was a 6 or 7 bolt motor and he assured me it is a 6 bolt.

 

[awdrocks]

I still say that's a GST with a 6-bolt swap. I'd see if you can find some more VIN's to run and see if they match up to what he says it is. I worry about it being stolen or salvage. To find out if that's really got a 16g in there, take a picture of the compressor wheel and see the the fins are dual-length. And I still don't understand the "AWD driver's side axle" thing.

He said the title is clean.

About the awd axle:

While ordering everything from Slow Boy Racing the sales guy that attended me said I should swap out my drivers side axle with an AWD one. That he did that because he was breaking the stock ones. And that once he swapped that out its been a tank. He told me I would be lucky if my stock axle survived one weekend of hard launching with this setup.

He also said its a direct swap, take one axle out and put in the other.