Tires screeching while turning at 5 mph: Differential problem or just shitty tires?

[Deadly BlaZe]

Ok everytime I turn the steering wheel sharply to the left or to the right while only going 5 mph in first gear and feathering the gas, you can hear the tires want to start pealing; If i mash the gas more, the tires will start peeling and screeching. Is there something wrong with my rear differential or is this just a case of shitty tires.

Also, when I bought the car, the differential and axles were out of the car, so i had to hook them up myself. I'm thinking the problem could be related to the lsd (I have no idea if it's a seperate piece from the pic below or if it's inside it). This is all that is currently inside the rear differential case:

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[brute]

Are you sure it isn't your belts squealing?

 

[Deadly BlaZe]

Are you sure it isn't your belts squealing?

I'm pretty sure i can tell the difference between my rear tires spinning and a belt squealing.

 

[DSMcamaro]

My car did it too after I went autocrossing. I also noticed other cars around town doing it too. Your tires are probably just chopped and it may also have something to do with the heat/weahter and road condtions.

 

[DevilSperm]

Do you notice if all 4 wheels have power or not? A broken center diff will cause this, usually putting it in RWD or FWD.

 

[ILLiCliPSE]

do you drive in a newly paved area? newly paved roads and parking lots will make your tires screetch from a 5mph turn.

 

[Deadly BlaZe]

Do you notice if all 4 wheels have power or not? A broken center diff will cause this, usually putting it in RWD or FWD.

If I launch the car, the tires do not spin like in fwd or rwd. Does that mean anything to you?

 

[Deadly BlaZe]

do you drive in a newly paved area? newly paved roads and parking lots will make your tires screetch from a 5mph turn.

well..it happens no matter where i'm making the turn.

 

[JoeCool]

Hey for what its worth.. My car had the exact same problem... It turned out when the guy sold me the car he put on some really tall crappy tires.. Once i put on some lower profile tires the screech went away completely.. I would check to make sure your tires are properly inflated.. That helps.. Also do you feel any rubbing when you make sharp turn? That was my first indication my tires were too tall... I was like you and thought it was my diff initally... Good Luck...






Pea's

 

[1990talon]

Do you feel binding at a low speed sharp turn or from a sharp turn at a stop? A wiseman told me that if you feel this binding you center diff is toast.

Good luck,
Brandon

 

[Deadly BlaZe]

Hey for what its worth.. My car had the exact same problem... It turned out when the guy sold me the car he put on some really tall crappy tires.. Once i put on some lower profile tires the screech went away completely.. I would check to make sure your tires are properly inflated.. That helps.. Also do you feel any rubbing when you make sharp turn? That was my first indication my tires were too tall... I was like you and thought it was my diff initally... Good Luck...

Yeah I can hear the tires are rubbing when i'm making a sharp turn and light on the throttle. Hopefully it is just the tires.

 

[Deadly BlaZe]

Do you feel binding at a low speed sharp turn or from a sharp turn at a stop? A wiseman told me that if you feel this binding you center diff is toast.

Good luck,
Brandon

what do you mean by binding?

 

[DevilSperm]

The inside tire will drag during a sharp turn instead of roll. I would double check to make sure all your tires are the same size, but Im leaning towards your center diff being the problem.

 

[Deadly BlaZe]

The inside tire will drag during a sharp turn instead of roll. I would double check to make sure all your tires are the same size, but Im leaning towards your center diff being the problem.

Yes the tires do sound like they are dragging. The tires are the same size though. They're old tires too with an ok amount of tread on them but they are not balanced very well.

 

[Deadly BlaZe]

Is there anyway i could test out the differential by spinning the rear tires or anything?

 

[1990talon]

well what I mean by binding would be you should be able to make a low speed turn and not feel any drag on the car if it drags or hangs up your center diff is the problem. also if you cant tell the differnce and it feels like your tires the simply check the tire for abnormal wear on them or if they are getting cut or groves in them if not probably your center diff.

 

[Phippsp]

A few of my friends had a problem at low speeds squealing while turning. Im not sure if this could be it or not but look behind the tire where it connects to the axle. There should be a rubber boot there. Is the boot alright and covering everything? If not then dirt can get into there and mess up the ball bearing inside of it. This will cause slow turning to squeal pretty bad. I think its called the drive axle. If its coming from the rear tires im not sure if it will have the rubber boot or not I know FWD cars do on there front tires but just check it out.

Also have you checked air pressure in your tires.

 

[JoeCool]

Hey I'm just curious.. What are some of the bad things that can happen as a result of having a bad rear differential? I bet theres a lot of people driving around on worn equipment and not even knowing it..

Just wondering..



Pea's

 

[Deadly BlaZe]

well what I mean by binding would be you should be able to make a low speed turn and not feel any drag on the car if it drags or hangs up your center diff is the problem. also if you cant tell the differnce and it feels like your tires the simply check the tire for abnormal wear on them or if they are getting cut or groves in them if not probably your center diff.

My tires do feel like they are dragging and not rolling. But if it was a diff problem, wouldn't my tires spin like a b*tch when i try to launch? If i put my car on a lift and try to spin the rear tires, they are supposed to spin in the opposite direction correct?

 

[Deadly BlaZe]

well what I mean by binding would be you should be able to make a low speed turn and not feel any drag on the car if it drags or hangs up your center diff is the problem. also if you cant tell the differnce and it feels like your tires the simply check the tire for abnormal wear on them or if they are getting cut or groves in them if not probably your center diff.

My tires do feel like they are dragging and not rolling. But if it was a diff problem, wouldn't my tires spin like a b*tch when i try to launch? If i put my car on a lift and try to rotate the rear tires in gear, they are supposed to both spin in opposite directions correct?

 

[1990talon]

Your center diff is part of the transmission and would have nothing to do with your tires spining.

http://www.vfaq.com/index-main.html

Check this out it should help you understand.

 

[1990talon]

Sorry see if this one works

http://www.geocities.com/spencerhut/talon/center_differential_repair.htm

 

[Wildeclipse2000]

My tires do feel like they are dragging and not rolling. But if it was a diff problem, wouldn't my tires spin like a b*tch when i try to launch? If i put my car on a lift and try to rotate the rear tires in gear, they are supposed to both spin in opposite directions correct?

It doesn't always do that. I don't know if you have ever seen, heard, or driven a DSM with a welded center diff, but it does exactly what you are describing. It locks the wheels and does not let them spin at different speeds. I doubt it has anything to do with your tires. It really sounds like the center diff is junk. If you can find someone locally who will let you borrow a good diff, swap it out, or have someome who knows how to if you don't.
That should fix your problem.

 

[1990talon]

If he goes that far just look to see if it is bad when he goes to swap it and if it is bad spend the $150 to fix it if you think you can do it yourself. But my money is definatly on the center diff.

 

[DSM90AWD]

It doesn't always do that. I don't know if you have ever seen, heard, or driven a DSM with a welded center diff, but it does exactly what you are describing. It locks the wheels and does not let them spin at different speeds

Exactly what I was thinking. You never know what the prior owner's done with the car and the welded center diff mod is a common mod for keeping the center diff together for drag racing.

If the center diff was unmodified but broken, you'd feel binding/releasing on low speed sharp turns due to the the broken spider gears. When this happened to me (twice) that was the tell-tale, not screecing tires