6-bolt questions

[t3turbogs]

Recently put a 6-bolt engine in my buddy's 97 Eclipse. Now, we are getting the common misfire code and have been reading like crazy on the forum find out how to fix it. I've read plenty of things on it and I'm still left with some questions. We have a 91 CAS with a 95 EPROM ECU. We put that ECU in for shits and giggles. I've read there's POT mod that will fix the problem, but I heard a lot of bad things about it. I also read that putting a switch in line with the coolant temp sensor will stop it. I also heard unplugging the TPS will stop it, but that seems stupid since our SAFC runs off of throttle points. Heard 94 CAS will eliminate the problem up to weeks at a time instead of everyday. We don't plan on moding it enough to the point to use DSM link. Was wondering if there's ANYTHING else out there that would work. Is there anyone using a 2GB ECU and a 94 CAS? Does that eliminate it? Because I've heard this problem is mainly with the 95-96 ECUs. If that's the case, we can easily put the 2GB ECU in and re-work all the wiring. Looking for people with experience with a 2GB ECU and a 6-bolt swap.

-Ryan

 

[t3turbogs]

so out of over 59000 dsmers on this site no one has a clue. or is it becauce im in a newbe forum, if thats the case can i get a move. thank you

 

[brute]

Have you read about inverting the CAS on 2g's with 6-bolts?

 

[blackbyrd]

I doubt it brute

so out of over 59000 dsmers on this site no one has a clue. or is it becauce im in a newbe forum, if thats the case can i get a move. thank you

Out of 59,000 do you not think this problem has happened before? Using ths search button shall return you over 500 results on this subject.

Some have had luck using a 93-94 CAS.. A lot of people use dsmlink to invert it though.

 

[Ludachris]

so out of over 59000 dsmers on this site no one has a clue. or is it becauce im in a newbe forum, if thats the case can i get a move. thank you

With the number of members and posts we have on this site, chances are better that you'd find a few past discussions with info than having someone who knows the answer reading your post right away. Give it time and do some more searching while you're waiting for your answer.

I'll edit your title so that it hopefully draws more attention from the people who might have the right answer.

 

[Auto RS T]

I'm agreeing with blackbyrd on this one.

Some have found that the "Black Top" CAS helped them with their misfires. It is the latest design for the 1Gs and uses a Hall effect type sensor. It is worth a try don't you think? It's the cheapest possibility that I can think of. I'm sure more help will come. Don't give up your search.

 

[greengoblin]

Take a look here in the trouble shooting area. It gives you a fix for your problem .

http://www.magnusmotorsports.com/tech/1gina2g.pdf

Good Luck

 

[titogs95]

Some have had luck using a 93-94 CAS.. A lot of people use dsmlink to invert it though.

That is true.
Dsmlink. Is the way to go. I have two locals friend with the 6-bolt swap. They fighted it for about a year and the only safe and normal solution is DSMlink....

 

[t3turbogs]

Have you read about inverting the CAS on 2g's with 6-bolts?

yea i have or the car wouldent be driving right now.

Out of 59,000 do you not think this problem has happened before? Using ths search button shall return you over 500 results on this subject.

Some have had luck using a 93-94 CAS.. A lot of people use dsmlink to invert it though.

Thats what i thought but after searching for weeks i got all the info you read at the begining of this. and the whole point of my Question was to find a fix without DSM link. trust me im not the kind of person to ask something without searching. my main question was will a 2GB ECU and a 94 CAS fix the misfire code?

for some reason the magnus page isent working for me.

we got a 93 CAS from a yard today will see if this fixes it. I am still searching and reading every thing i can find.

Thank you every one for your help! Ill keep everyone posted to help others

 

[blackbyrd]

Thats what i thought but after searching for weeks i got all the info you read at the begining of this. and the whole point of my Question was to find a fix without DSM link. trust me im not the kind of person to ask something without searching. my main question was will a 2GB ECU and a 94 CAS fix the misfire code?

for some reason the magnus page isent working for me.

we got a 93 CAS from a yard today will see if this fixes it. I am still searching and reading every thing i can find.

Thank you every one for your help! Ill keep everyone posted to help others

I'm sure you did searching, I just dont understand why you'd post if you knew the answer to your own qustion. And I didnt like the out of 59,000 comment, just because a lot of people here go out of there way(me included) to help out fellow dsmers.
I know you were looking for ways without dsmlink, however it still seems to be the consencus that it is the best and most consistent way to fix the problem.
I'm not sure the differences in a 2gb between a 2ga in the ECU. But, I can't see why the 94 cas wouldn't work, and I'm sure there are several hundred 2gb's on this site that has done a 6bolt swap. I'm sure you'll find it in the search.
Good luck, let us know how it goes!

 

[gsxpj6428]

i tried both green top and black top cas, both did not solve, just a difference in how long it took to misfire. only proper way to fix it without screwing other things up is to run dsmlink.

 

[t3turbogs]

thank you gsxpj6428. did you do that with your 97 ecu befor going to the 95 to run dsmlink? my whole thing is, will the ecu make a diffrence? like i said we just put the 95 ecu in because we had it.

 

[Joe'sTalon]

Well to have an answer for your question from my reading I have the same answer as the other guy; black top CAS only delays the code and the only known solution is DSMlink.

But I'd like to ask some questions myself concerning the 1g in a 2g process:
is the 2g oil cooler still used? Also if using 1g head, will a 1g throttle body/intake mani fit properly in the 2g as far as all the 2g connections and sensors are concerned? Does the 2g tranny/clutch fit the 6-bolt flywheel, and would this be a prime opportunity to upgrade it with a clutch kit?
Thanks

 

[t3turbogs]

Well to have an answer for your questions.

is the 2g oil cooler still used?

i dont think a 2g has an oil cool unless its a 2gA thing, and we put one in from a 91.

Also if using 1g head, will a 1g throttle body/intake mani fit properly in the 2g as far as all the 2g connections and sensors are concerned?

all but 1, the pressure sensor on the top of the 2g intake mani. you will have to eather tap it in or come up with some way for it to read mani pressure. (connect it to a vac line or something there are ways. i seen alot of pic around of diffrent things people have done)

Does the 2g tranny/clutch fit the 6-bolt flywheel,

Tranny yes clutch i dont know we changed in wile it was out.

and would this be a prime opportunity to upgrade it with a clutch kit?

100% yes