0-60mph GS-T or GSX?

VenomPL · 07-06-2004, 05:16 PM

Who is the winner?

HALO1 · 07-06-2004, 05:18 PM

Well, you could get your GST wheel-spinning at 60 MPH pretty quick, but...stock vs. stock, AWD kills GST. Like mods, AWD kills GST.

VenomPL · 07-06-2004, 05:23 PM

Thanks

I got a little argue about it with my friend, I would be glad if there is so more persons to confirm that...

psychlow · 07-06-2004, 05:25 PM

Stock for stock, with good drivers in both cars, the GSX will decimate the GST 0-60.

dsmayhem · 07-06-2004, 07:20 PM

One has traction from a stop..one does not...this should not be a hard one.

leakyfaucet · 07-06-2004, 08:38 PM

The X has the advantage in short distance, the T in the long run.

vampeer · 07-07-2004, 02:57 AM

bullshit! you have to put 3rd gear in gsx to reach 100km/h and that's why it's slower.
gsx will be first after first 100m (60ft).
let's take 1/4 mile times. both cars are stock and both make 15s but gs-t has higher trap speed. :eek:

RedTurboEclipse · 07-07-2004, 03:00 AM

GSX.. stock for stock 0-60. the GS-T will spin.. the GSX wont..
1/4.. again GSX. the GS-T will spin the GSX wont..
put mods.. the GS-T will spin even more.. the GSX still wont spin..

Defiant · 07-07-2004, 04:24 AM

AWD is geared lower as well.

vampeer · 07-07-2004, 06:04 AM

once again:

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Originally Posted by Defiant

AWD is geared lower as well.

so you have to change to 3rd gear to reach 100km/h

do you guys have cartest?

VenomPL · 07-07-2004, 08:35 AM

Vampeer there is no doubt that GSX reaches 60mph faster! I wish you were right cause I own GS-T and it would be great to beat ass on GSX!!!

But I just not gonna happen... (stock)

Rice Over Wheat · 07-07-2004, 09:59 AM

GSX, no contest with same specs. Even slightly better specs on GST, still GSX 0-60 I wager. To top speed with same specs and drivers, GST.

Does anyone even care about 0-60 anymore? It's really nothing but a magazine bragging right benchmark. Look at the fwd SRT-4 with a 0-60 only two tenths of a second slower than the awd Evo. 60 mph comes so fast it's really a non-event. 0-100 is a better benchmark in my opinion and reflects an average street race.

sphillips91 · 07-07-2004, 10:05 AM

All depends on the driver imo. With 2 equally skilled drivers the GSX would win obviously but its very possible to get great launches in a GST. Of course when you start adding more and more power the AWD really helps.

boostedinaz · 07-07-2004, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by vampeer

once again:

so you have to change to 3rd gear to reach 100km/h

do you guys have cartest?

I dont have car test but I have common sense and that tells me that a stock AWD will rape FWD 0-60. I have one of each and have been to thr track when they were both just had a few mods. The FWD pulled a 2.3 60ft and ran a 14.2, the AWD pulled a 1.8 60ft and ran a 13.8. I had to shift four times instead of three for the FWD car and still a half second faster. The trap speeds were different but we are talking a short distance so that wont play a roll. Nice try though.

Michael

truwarrior · 07-07-2004, 10:06 PM

What if the GSX has a 20G and the GST has a T28, both full exhausts, motor mounts, intake, dsmlink for the GST and safc for the GSX?

I was kinda thinking about a t28 setup with nitrous controlled via dsmlink if the car ever becomes just a project car. That way u get fast spool and nitrous top end. Otherwise it's just an extreme t25 and hopefully upgrade to a t28 after it's paid.

Syndicate13 · 07-07-2004, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by truwarrior

What if the GSX has a 20G and the GST has a T28, both full exhausts, motor mounts, intake, dsmlink for the GST and safc for the GSX?

I was kinda thinking about a t28 setup with nitrous controlled via dsmlink if the car ever becomes just a project car. That way u get fast spool and nitrous top end. Otherwise it's just an extreme t25 and hopefully upgrade to a t28 after it's paid.

This has nothing to do with the topic being discussed. So are you trying to compare these two for 0-60 times? Still a decently driven GSX will beat even a well driven GST on the street to 60 mph. It's just an easier task in the GSX. Now I'm not saying that a GST will never beat a GSX 0-60 ever, but it will take some great driving and the correct mods on the GST to do it. Now a lot of decently modded AWD's on here are probably in the 3's 0-60 and that's already supercar territory. Look at Scott Gray's 1G, 0-60 dry=3.6 sec, 0-60 wet=3.9 sec. The Ferrari Enzo runs 0-60 in 3.3 sec so just keep that in mind

VOTBLINDUB · 07-08-2004, 12:33 PM

stock the X will take it, modded its hard to predict, i've seen both happen

midnght · 07-08-2004, 07:30 PM

They both say the same for a stock Turbo.

It might have something to do with one gets up a goes and the other will catch it fast enough. I am not saying the GSX beats the GS-T or vice-versa. I am just wondering that fact that we all know the GS-T hits 100mph faster so......

At what time and at what MPH do the two swap leaders?

crankbender · 07-08-2004, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by midnght

They both say the same for a stock Turbo.

It might have something to do with one gets up a goes and the other will catch it fast enough. I am not saying the GSX beats the GS-T or vice-versa. I am just wondering that fact that we all know the GS-T hits 100mph faster so......

At what time and at what MPH do the two swap leaders?

That site is crazy wrong....it says a 95 is a full second faster than a 90??? that is way off man.

You can't say for sure too much depends on the drivers and traction conditions. I think people really make too much of an issue out of drive line loss. Seriously you are only rotating the extra weight of the x-fer case, drive shaft, and rear end. Most of those parts have quite small radius of gyrations and don't take that much to get up to speed.

Now if you go with a cf drive shaft I would say the loss would almost be unnoticeable. The drag from the bearings can also be minimized...

midnght · 07-09-2004, 04:52 PM

Yeah, I would like to run my AWD tranny in my FWD against a FWD tranny equiped car and see what type of difference there is in the 0-60. The gearing being different and all.

got_no_sol · 07-09-2004, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by midnght

Yeah, I would like to run my AWD tranny in my FWD against a FWD tranny equiped car and see what type of difference there is in the 0-60. The gearing being different and all.

come to washington and I'll indulge you

VenomPL · 07-09-2004, 08:01 PM

I got a news for all of you guys =] Stock GS-T kills stock GSX in 0-100km/h!!! (62mph) GS-T reaches that speed in 6.8s and GSX in 7.5s. I was supprised too but its proven(CARTEST)

psychlow · 07-09-2004, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by VenomPL

I got a news for all of you guys =] Stock GS-T kills stock GSX in 0-100km/h!!! (62mph) GS-T reaches that speed in 6.8s and GSX in 7.5s. I was supprised too but its proven(CARTEST)

Bullshit.

Do GST's run faster 1/4 miles than GSX's?

Umm, NO! What do GST's and GSX's trap? High 80's, low 90's? I bet they took two automatic cars and neither of them pressed the gas pedal at all until the green light dropped. Even still, .7 seconds difference? Even with lower gearing on the AWD?!?

That's a huge BS flag there. I'm thinking Olympic-sized.