Future DSMer needs help on IF to become a dsmer.

[1SicDsm]

Hey there Everyone this tread is to help a buddy of mine, he contacted me on myspace because he liked my car and he asked Told me hes got 4-5K $$ and he needs a fast cheap car to i told him all the good thing about dsm's and told him about DSMTUNERS that its the DSM BIBLE, hopefully i helped him make up his mind, his friend told him that his dsm spent more time in the shop than on the road, SO WHY DONT YOU ALL TELL HIM WHY HE SHOULD JOIN THE BEST COMMUNITY OUT THERE, AND BUY A DSM

 

[a_scobel]

...shenanigans.

 

[1SicDsm]

...shenanigans.

hey man im just trying to let him hear it from other people why the attitude?

 

[GreddyGst]

DSM are affordable cars, I give you that. But turbo cars require maintance something most cheap buyers don't care about and eventually the car itself becomes a money pit because they can't take care of it. If he only has 4-5k and nothing more than I suggest he buys a honda where is a bit more reliable till he has a steady income. My 2cents

 

[spinninfwdlaser]

Agreed, call me an A**hole, but I personally do not like nice DSMs going to just anyone who doesnt respect them.

 

[1gdsmraider]

I <3 Dsm!

 

[bartels903]

Shenanigans HAHAHAHA

 

[Thomas91169]

his friend ###### drives a honduh and thinks hes the shit

Real DSM owners do their own work and dont abuse their cars, so the only time the car is down is when its getting modded. abuse your car and it will abuse you. then again, when you make 2-3x the amount of power that the car was designed for, especially if its 15 years old, youre gonna find where mitsubishi cheaped out.

 

[mrbrianf20]

Agreed, dsms are for people that like to read and learn. Anybody can put a intake and a fartcan on a honda civic, but when you start getting into dsms you find there is so much more and you have to be pretty dedicated if you wqanna do it right.

 

[beating4g63s]

his friend ###### drives a honduh and thinks hes the shit

Real DSM owners do their own work and dont abuse their cars, so the only time the car is down is when its getting modded. abuse your car and it will abuse you. then again, when you make 2-3x the amount of power that the car was designed for, especially if its 15 years old, youre gonna find where mitsubishi cheaped out.

my dsm doesn't abuse me it abuses my wallet. I love my dsm knowing that when it's back running it's gonna be a monster. dsms get bad names from the people who buy one and keep it for like 3 months rag it out and sell it, ask someone whos owned one more then 2-3 years and you'll see what they really can do, I've owned dsms for past 4 years and wouldn't sell any of my 3.

 

[spinninfwdlaser]

The problem is this:
A guy who is used to owning ultra reliable Hondas with no power to break anything step into a turbo DSM. Turbo DSMs will abuse you twice as hard if you abuse it. They abuse it like a stepchild because they are not used to the power, and they cannot get enough of it. So, they get addicted to boost, step it up to 16, throw some bolt ons on, and abuse it more without ever doing tbelts, bs belts, hoses.... And next thing you know, they are on here saying things like "DSMs are unreliable POS's because mine destroyed a head" or "it keeps nickle and diming me, should have kept my civic".... I do not want to offend anyone at all, but this truly upsets me, I realize everyone starts off as a newbie DSMr, but you should not go and buy a DSM with absolutely no knowledge of the DSM, its nature, nor its attitude. If he is scared enough to not want to get a DSM, and needs to be convinced, here is my advice if you are reading it "Do not buy a DSM, stick to your Hondas. Maybe one day you will learn to respect our machines, and our crowds, and you will be enthused enough to buy one yourself, no questions asked."

 

[The_EE]

his friend ###### drives a honduh and thinks hes the shit

Real DSM owners do their own work and dont abuse their cars, so the only time the car is down is when its getting modded. abuse your car and it will abuse you. then again, when you make 2-3x the amount of power that the car was designed for, especially if its 15 years old, youre gonna find where mitsubishi cheaped out.

I would not say cheaped out. When you are making 2x the intended power, things are going to break on any car because it was not designed for that. Mitsu cheaped out on a few places on the DSM's but thats fine, we have a strong engine to work with, a decent drive train and our cars still look damned sexy to this day.

 

[1SicDsm]

Thanks guys thats what i basiclly explained to him he said he was ganna start looking for one.

 

[1gcrazy]

...shenanigans.

Captain O'Hagan: I swear to God I'm going to pistol whip the next guy who says, " Shenanigans."
Mac: Hey Farva what's the name of that restaurant you like with all the goofy shit on the walls and the mozzarella sticks?
Farva: You mean Shenanigans?
Mac: OOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
Thorny: OOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
[as they hand the Captain their pistols]

 

[RedTurboEclipse]

dsms are reliable if you dont mod it too much, they are reliable modded too if you dont half-ass it the first time around only to return to fix it later.

a lot of new owners, mostly yougins think its an easy cheap way to have a fast vehicle, a nice looking one at that if you get a 2G. they cheap out on everything, things break, and they say its the cars fault.

1gs are older in general so they will be more prone to problems because of age

 

[Flash]

dsms are reliable if you dont mod it too much, they are reliable modded too if you dont half-ass it the first time around only to return to fix it later.

a lot of new owners, mostly yougins think its an easy cheap way to have a fast vehicle, a nice looking one at that if you get a 2G. they cheap out on everything, things break, and they say its the cars fault.

1gs are older in general so they will be more prone to problems because of age

By far the most level-headed and straight forward post in the whole thread. My DSM has been very reliable to me. But then again I don't beat on my car when I drive it. I treat it with respect because I'm the one paying for it if something breaks, I also like to keep my stuff nice.
My advice is to tell your buddy to get a DSM, but help guide him. He doesn't need to have the Chilton's manual memorized, but a basic knowledge. I would encourage him to not buy the cheap parts, because in the end it will bite him in the ass.

 

[beating4g63s]

Captain O'Hagan: I swear to God I'm going to pistol whip the next guy who says, " Shenanigans."
Mac: Hey Farva what's the name of that restaurant you like with all the goofy shit on the walls and the mozzarella sticks?
Farva: You mean Shenanigans?
Mac: OOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
Thorny: OOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
[as they hand the Captain their pistols]

hahhahah I was thinking of posting the same thing but couldn't get the wording correct

 

[DROOPY209]

My sister goes to highschool and has a job. She needed a car to get to school and to work. I have (3) 1gB AWD's and I decided to let her drive the fastest one that I have. She DD the 12 second DSM in my avatar every day with no issues at all. Before I let her use it, I bought about $200 dollars worth in preventive maintenance, numerous gaskets, fully synthetic oil, Mitsubishi oil filter, BG Syncroshift II and several other parts. She loves driving it and it doesn't ever give her any issues. Keep in mind that I did a really big tune up/preventive maintenance on it right before she started driving it.

If you're going to drive a modded DSM as a daily driver, the car will require more attention, more preventive maintainance, and ofcourse more money to keep it healthy.

A turbocharged DSM isn't for a person that just fills the tank with regular unleaded and drives off without periodically checking other things.

 

[RacethisTSI]

from what i found out, the best way to go into it is to know the car and expect it to break when you starting throwing performance parts on it. when i bought mine i expected it to be down quite a bit but that didnt stop me from buying it. i abuse my car every once and awhile when i take it to the track but thats it. like said before, the key is to respect the car. i think it takes a more mature person to own a dsm, but thats just my 2 cents.

and like we all know, "with great power comes great responsibility"...

 

[RipperXX]

I duno what you guys are talking about. IMO I abuse the hell out of mine and it has yet to have a failure. Sure the tranny shifts like crap, but it did that from the day I got it. And it's about to get rebuilt. Aside from that I have zero complaints and beleave me im no tuneing guru & and I often beat on it when I KNOW for a fact it's a bad idea . But she holds strong.


It's all about the maintance. IMO if you have the know how lust for the car and $$$ beat the shit out of it and enjoy every lovein secound of it.



NOTE: I dont launch my car alot, I give it a head start before I start it's beating .

 

[Dream On]

My car is very reliable as well, but it's also very close to stock. Maintenance is huge if you want the car to stay in good shape. As soon as you know something is wrong with the car, fix it. Don't wait and let it cause other stuff to break. If your friend ends up getting the car, make sure he does a boost leak and a compression test before doing anything at all with the car, and fix the boost leaks that it WILL have.

 

[AWDfrank]

DSM's are reliable like everyone else said, it's all about maintenance. I got my laser for $700 did about $1300 in maintenance and it has lasted 2 years with me, and that's driving 40 miles a day.

 

[EvolvingGST]

Ok... here is my issues, I will explain it with hopefully clear points.

1. Not everyone can own a DSM.

DSMs are not unreliable, they just aren't reliable. They are as reliable as you make them and as reliable as they are taken care of. Not just any owner can have a DSM. If you want a fast cheap car then DSM. But then it will break, I mean how many people on this site alone get the cheapest parts possible and treat their car as drag cars and then complain about how much of a PITA it is and how unreliable they are.

If they are that type of person looking for cheap to free and beating on the car yet looking for reliable then they are looking at the wrong car. HELL anyone who does that is looking for the wrong car. The old racer's equation. Cheap, Fast, Reliable. Now pick 2. Because you can't have all 3. Simply put you can't.

Both my DSMs are down and I am putting them together slowly and making sure I am doing everything correctly and putting in new parts so that it doesnt fall appart again esp my daily driver. I am not like some ass clown that just slaps together a car as fast as I can so I that can go run the 1/4 again. So if he has a mentality that is spend where you need to and take care of the car and it will take care of you then tell him welcome or he is going to be miserable.

2. DSMs are as fast as the driver.

It doesn't matter how many mods you put in a car if you can't drive. There are tons and I mean TONS of DSMers that have 50trims that run in the high 12s. Hell my friends with 14bs run in the low 12s and some in the high 11s. So don't expect the car to be fast, he should be as fast as the car. The car can't do it alone.

3. Noone should convince him of anything.

If he doesn't like the car you shouldn't force him into buying one. Hell even manipulate him. We each buy our cars and build our cars because we want to. Because we love it. Just like some people like VWs and some people like DSMs and some like Supras. He needs to pick out what he likes/loves/cares about.

other options for him

MR2 turbo
Celica Alltrac
Camero
DSM
300zx
Supra MKIII turbo
*cringe* VW 1.8T
Mustang Foxbody

 

[steebm]

dsm arent unreliable thay are as reliable as you make them. i have a 93 n/t talon origionaly a 1.8 and honostly it was shity as hell but i swaped to a 6 bolt 4g63 n/t its been great i drive 90 miles a day and no mor problems but timing belt tenchener axels and motor mounts(bad at motor swap any way) and syncros, its also true that if you abuse them they will break. ivve tore the syncros outa mine from speed shifting at 7500rpm more than i should and i hate honda drivers that dis our dsms so what hondas turn high rpms but whats the point if you can make the same and more power at half the rpms. dsms are a car you have to read and learn on but they are by far the easyest to work on just a tad bit hard to get parts for well for me any way livin in the boonies of tennessee

 

[Trav83]

This thread is over 2 years old steebm