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Old 03-14-2012, 02:19 PM Show Printable Version Show Printable Version   Email this Post to a Friend Email this Post      #1 (permalink)
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Evo rear brakes on 2g


One question about this setup. Searched around and haven't found this answer. When purchasing all the posts parts, do they have a bracket like the stock gst calipers or do the just bolt to where the stock brackets were ?



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DIY - Install EVO brakes (Brembo) on 2g

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EVO8 Brakes on 2g GSX!! [Archive] - DSM Forums: Mitsubishi Eclipse, Plymouth Laser, and Eagle Talon Forum: DSMtalk.com
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That video is for a brake swap on a GSX.
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Just to verify, what I understand from that video is that they just bolt directly to were the oem brackets goes? So all I need for the rear is caliper, pads and rotors? I just dont want to have everythi ng tor. Dow. To find out I need a bracket. By tbe way thank you. That video helps alot, just never fou.d a defi.ite answer in any of the write ups.

I just wanted answers on the rear, because im just gonna do the outlander brakes on the front and evo on the rear, I just wants a bolt up setup fairly cheap and dont want to spend thay much on jdm knuckles.

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I might be mistaken, Gofer would know the correct answer since his is a GST, but when i was looking into it, the rears for brembos were just a bolt on.


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If I'm not mistaken the gst and gsx rear are the same. I think the only difference is the 2 piston caliper and bigger rotor up front. Correct if im wrong.

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Just to verify, what I understand from that video is that they just bolt directly to were the oem brackets goes? So all I need for the rear is caliper, pads and rotors? I just dont want to have everythi ng tor. Dow. To find out I need a bracket. By tbe way thank you. That video helps alot, just never fou.d a defi.ite answer in any of the write ups.

I just wanted answers on the rear, because im just gonna do the outlander brakes on the front and evo on the rear, I just wants a bolt up setup fairly cheap and dont want to spend thay much on jdm knuckles.
I would get the bolts for 'em too, just in case.
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just thought it would give you an idea.


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Thats what I hear, the stock bolts from the eclipse are to long and hit the rotor. And iugrad that video seemed to help more than the writeups, im more visual because actually seeing it on the car helped.

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I just did this upgrade and no, the stock DSM brake bolts do not work. It's not the length of the bolts really thats the issue, it's the pitch.
I believe stock is M10 x 1.25 and the Evo rears use M10 x 1.5 if I am remembering right.
As for length, the Evo mounting ears are actually a little thicker than the DSM's and I ended up using longer (only slightly) bolts than the stock. I used 10 grade bolts from the local Checker Autoparts store.
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Ok, so theres no additional bracket?

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Ok, so theres no additional bracket?
Edit: I'm dumb, Didn't read the whole thread.

the evo rear set up should be a bolt-on job. Only issue would be the stock heat shield.


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I thought that was only for the front. At least on the 2Gb GSX. I was talking the the guys at JNZ running a while back about that upgrade. I think that you need the JDM fronts and the backs just bolt on. I'm not clear about rotors though, as far as diameter.


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Good, thank you that's what I wanted to hear, doing evo in the rear and outlander in thr front, everything for all 4 corners runs just a little over 500 not bad imo.

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Brembo is a European company, therefore they utilise DIN hardware standards; Mits is Japanese, and thus uses JIS standards (except for pipe fittings when they use BSP !) Different thread pitch for a given diameter.

Evo rear Brembos bolt right on using Evo rear rotors, even the 2G stock brake lines work.

The outer section of the dust sheild has to be modified to account for the larger rotor OD. Be VERY CAREFUL modifying the dust shield, it is very easy to tweak it slightly - since the caliper mounts are built into the dust shield, the caliper is then misaligned and mushy, nasty brakes ensue.

And we all know how easy it is to remove the AWD rear hubs to change the backing plate...

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The stock Evo mounting bolts on the rear calipers are 30mm long. I cut them down to approx. 25mm and they bolted on just fine. As for the rear dust shields, they can be trimmed. I used a cut-off wheel and cut the 90 degree lip off the shields/smoothed and painted them and the rotors went on with no contact.
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Good, thank you that's what I wanted to hear, doing evo in the rear and outlander in thr front, everything for all 4 corners runs just a little over 500 not bad imo.
Just out of curiosity, how did you arrive at evo rears and outlander fronts?


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Note: at some point (which should have been about 4 years ago), you all need to stop talking about "Evo rear brakes" without a generation mentioned, because Evo X rears are a totally unique item.

Similarly, you need to be careful when you talk about "brackets" when discussing swaps. The stock brakes on DSMs have floating calipers, so they have a bracket between the knuckle and caliper, no matter what. In contrast, all Evos back to at least 8s have fixed calipers, so they don't have an OE bracket, but when you put these brakes on a DSM, you often need an adapter bracket between the ears on the knuckle and the tabs on the caliper. So, be clear about which type of bracket you are referring to.

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