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Old 02-07-2008, 01:41 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Rota slipstreams for a 2g and tire size?

hello i want to get a set of rota slipstreams, i want to run a 16 inch wheel and was wondeing how wide i should go, what offset. also i want to know what size tire i need. i like the bfg g force but dint find any in 16 inch? what other tires would you guys recomend for street strip setup. Ive been doing alot of search but its been pretty useless so far.


TIRE SIZE RECOMMENDATION REQUEST FORM

1. My car is a:
b) 2g DSM awd 95 gsx

2. My wheel size is:
Diameter: 16
Width: 7
Offset: 40mm or what ever is needed

3. My current or future suspension height will be lowered
b) i have the prokit for my car i think thts 1.5 inchs to 2 inchs

4. If suspension is lowered,
b) Rear camber will be adjusted to within 1° to 1.5° negative.

5. Rear fender flange rolling:
a) My fenders are rolled or will be if necessary.

6. My driving style is:
c) Street and Strip.


7. I have searched for and read the FAQ's, Tech Articles, and threads on wheel and tire fitment:
a) Yes, but I just need someone with experience to validate my choices.
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Old 02-07-2008, 06:30 AM   #2 (permalink)
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First off, you have been PM'd with my wheel/tire information you requested.

Now, you asked

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TIRE SIZE RECOMMENDATION REQUEST FORM

1. My car is a:
b) 2g DSM awd 95 gsx

2. My wheel size is:
Diameter: 16
Width: 7
Offset: 40mm or what ever is needed

3. My current or future suspension height will be lowered
b) i have the prokit for my car i think thts 1.5 inchs to 2 inchs

4. If suspension is lowered,
b) Rear camber will be adjusted to within 1° to 1.5° negative.

5. Rear fender flange rolling:
a) My fenders are rolled or will be if necessary.

6. My driving style is:
c) Street and Strip.


7. I have searched for and read the FAQ's, Tech Articles, and threads on wheel and tire fitment:
a) Yes, but I just need someone with experience to validate my choices.
1. Yes, you have a 2G .
2.
Rota Slipstream comes in two flavors of 16"x7" -- 40mm offset and 45mm offset. You want the 40mm offset. With a 5x114.3mm bolt pattern.

See: Machiii.net Rota Slipstream Main Page


Scroll down to "16"x7"", then select your bolt pattern and offset. As I directed you in the PM, be sure to CALL FIRST AND CHECK AVAILABILITY BEFORE ORDERING ONLINE!!!!. They have had issues keeping stock of the 16x7 40mm offset in gunmetal in the past. Either way, machiii.net has excellent prices and free shipping. I have used them several times with excellent shipping/service.

3. You should really look toward a 1.5" drop -- 2" screws with the front and rear camber quite a bit. You should also look into purchasing camber correction kits for the front/rear. The rear can be adjusted for very little $$$ if you get longer bolts and purchase some thin hardened washers and shim the upper two mounting bolts for the rear upper control arm. The fronts are adjustable by using the SPC aluminum adjustable upper control arms, or with adjustable camber plates. Here is the direct link to RRE's site selling both the products mentioned above. I have the aluminum control arms on my car, but they are quite a bit more expensive than the inserts.

Here is the main page: RRE's Eclipse Camber Correction, Camber Plate and Bearing Plate Info

Check this if you purchase the SPC control arms: SPC control arm information and camber adjustment information

Check this if you purchase the adjustable camber inserts: Camber adjustment information

4. That sounds fine.
5. Rolling really won't be necessary if using a 215 or 225 wide tire on the 16"x7" rims.

6. Street and strip.

Ok, this is the fun one now. When you say street/strip...First off, is this car driven year-round through snow/ice/slush/crap/rain?? Or are you intending on having a set of DRY race tires, and a set of street rubber on two sets of rims? If you want the best all-round tire that can be left on throughout the year, and give excellent traction in any weather condition, while still pulling 1.5-1.6 60's at the track, I am only suggesting one tire. They are called:

NOKIAN HAKKAPELLIITTA RSi's 225/50/16 or 215/55/16 are the two that are ideal fits for the 16"x7" Rota Slipstream, and clear everything on the car with a 1.5-2" drop. I was using these for over 3 years (never changed them -- only rotated them), did over 35,000 miles, 200+ track passes, and countless street launches -- I still had half tread when they were taken off.

They are one of the most badass ice racing/snow/all-season tires on the market, and they deliver unbeatable performance for an all-round tire. Keep in mind, these aren't dry handling tires -- they are made to perform better than anything else in every other weather condition. Don't discount them in dry though -- these tires have landed me several mid 1.5 60's, and dozens of 1.6 60's at the track. They launch and have extremely good traction due to their tread compound, and design with a crapload of sipes (tread cuts). Take a look at them:

Nokian Tyres: Tyre Nokian Hakkapeliitta RSi





Contact their main warehouse for a dealer near you:
Nokian tyres inc.
339 mason rd. la vergne
TN 37086 Nashville
Tel. 152 870 600
Fax. 152 870 610

Or, contact Marty at Big Bear Tire in Oconomowoc, WI at (262) 567-4449, or check out their website at Welcome to Big Bear Tire This is who I have purchased SEVERAL sets of tires from in the past (Pirelli P1000's, Nokian Hakkapeliitta Q, Nokian Hakkapeliitta WR, Nokian Hakkapeliitta RSi, Falken Azenis, Falken ZE-512, Yokohama Geolander AT-S, etc.). They have taken care of me, and have excellent customer service.

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6. Part 2: If the tires you are looking for are going to only be a summer DRY tire, then I would look at a few -- Yokohama ES100's, (budget friendly) or Parada Spec-2's, or AVS intermediates, the Toyo Proxes T1R (moderate) or R1R, Hankook Ventus HRII's or Ventus RS-2, etc. Expect to pay around $100-170/tire. Click on tire brand to get more information .

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7. These pieces of information I have listed above are from my personal experiences. That is why I am sharing with you in this much detail.

Good luck!


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any pics of 2gs with 15 inch wheels?
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Why are you considering 15" rims? Are you going to be running slicks for drag racing?

The 15"x7" are the same price as the 16"x7" rims. By going with the 15" rims on a street tire, you are effectively decreasing the handling performance of your vehicle; for the small decrease in cost of purchasing tires.

If you are really looking at 15" rims for slicks, then look at a 24.5x8.5x16 Hoosier QTP's or M&H slicks.

If you are going to use 15" rims, you are very limited on brake upgrades. You will be limited to 11.75" and smaller; so you are likely stuck with aftermarket stock-sized rotors like "powerslot", and using upgraded brake pads and stainless steel lines.

16" aftermarket rims will fit a 4-piston or narrow 6-piston caliper and 12.2" rotors.
17" aftermarket rims will fit most aftermarket calipers and up to 13" rotors easily.
18" rims and larger, are required for most 14"+ rotors.

For more information on brake selection before you make your tire purchase, I would heavily reccomend taking a look at Todd's site -- TCE Performance Products

Good luck with your decisions.


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My car is mostly set up for drag racing with some street duty, i like drag racing alot not to much into the road corse thing, at least not with this car. heres some pics to kinda get an idea, but the main reason i want 15s is some day i problly will want to put on a set of slicks, but not rite now, and the tire i want is olny offerd in 15s, i want the, bfg g force ta, couple guys in my area have em and they like em.





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