ECMlink Link gods I need some advice

[mchustle]

Hello guys Finally bought my link and got it today. I bought it used off a member on here. Im still trying to figure everything out I have watched the videos on ecmtuning's website and read so many threads im going crazy.

but anyway, like I said i got the package today opened up my ecu, threw the chip in, and hooked the ecu back up. Turned on the ignition connected to the ecu and zero'd out the global and deadtime, im trying to figure out the tuning with the stock 450s before I throw in the Evo injectors. Anyway after that I made sure the timing and fuel adjusters were zero'd out, and started it up. Idle was pretty good clicked on the Maf Comp and noticed the first few "dots" were adjusted on the charts, and me being the brilliant guy I am zero'd them out and it started running like crap. I dont really know where to start . I know I need to adjust my tps a little because it was at .61v and I probably need to adjust my ISC a little bit also but i forgot to log that like an idiot.

I dont have any logs right now because my laptop died before i actually saved any, so i know you all cant magically say do this, but i should have some logs tomorrow. so basically I'm just wondering where i sould start after the tps adjustment and isc position. And does the maft make since i figured since it was the stock maft it should idle fine with the sliders or whatever zero'd.

Mod list should be up to date. Any help/advice you all could give would be great. Im gonna email ecmtuning tomorrow with the S/N of the link and try to get access to their forums.

 

[doubleclutch99]

What version of link is it?

 

[mchustle]

Its v3 lite.

 

[doubleclutch99]

we really need a log to see what's going on. so get the tps adjusted if you can save a log so we can look at it. and just email Tom Dorris about your serial number and he'll set you up. he's a great guy to deal with. those guys at ecm tuning are awesome people.

 

[snowborder714]

Screw trying to tune the stock injectors. Throw in the Evo's and learn on them. As long as you set global and deadtime, you won't screw anything up.
baseinjectordata [ECMTuning - wiki]

As stated above, a log will tell us more than you can.

 

[boredog]

Why not just reset the maf settings and go from there if you want it running fine again?

 

[blkgst97]

You can use tps adjust to get your throttle position in order, also use isc simulation if you think that that is out of whack. If your airflowperrev is around .25 then everything should be set. do you have the tock 2 g maps loaded to start fresh, also how about a boost leak test to get things started.

 

[mchustle]

Ok thanks. After I get off work tomorrow ill go to the shop and adjust all my sensors and verify my base timing and try and grab a few logs and mess around with a couple other things. like I said Ive never tuned anything and dont really know much about it at all, but ive done all the work to the car myself and i dont want to wimp out on the tuning . Hopefully with some more reading and some help from the dsm family I should be able to figure it out. Im sure there is even more useful reading once i get access to the link forums.


On a side note the guy I got the link from got it with his car, so i dont know the original owner, but i read somewhere you needed the original owner's name with th S/N. Is that correct if so I may never see those forums.


I didnt see all the other replies

I did do the Tps adjust in link and made sure to get the full move of the pedal so that may be right now.

Yes its the stock 2g maf, and when i set it back to zero across the board is when it started haveing crappy idle.

AFPR is at .37 if i remember correctly so its way off.

Like i said ill just set everything up right tomorrow and grab a few logs and ill go ahead and throw the evo injectors in and set up the global, and if i remember correctly they will have the same deadtime but i cant remember for sure ill have to double check that. Just to make sure evo 8 and 9 are the same injectors just with a different spray pattern correct because i have evo 9 injectors if that matters im not sure. thanks again for all the help guys.

Just trying to get as much info as i can now because I dont have Internet at the shop .

 

[snowborder714]

Nope, no original owner's name required. Send them an e-mail, tell them who you bought it from, and that it's a used copy. They'll get you in.

 

[mchustle]

Nope, no original owner's name required. Send them an e-mail, tell them who you bought it from, and that it's a used copy. They'll get you in.

Ok cool thanks for the info ill email them tomorrow when I can get the S/N. I'll just be happy when I understand half of the tuning stuff .

Screw trying to tune the stock injectors. Throw in the Evo's and learn on them. As long as you set global and deadtime, you won't screw anything up.
baseinjectordata [ECMTuning - wiki]

As stated above, a log will tell us more than you can.

Here are a couple idle logs let me know any input you may have thanks.

log 1 is right after i set the timing right and log 2 is right before i left with a couple light revs.

Im gonna put the injectors in tomorrow before I start "cruise Tuning". I just figured it wouldn't effect the idle since it will be compensated with the global.

 

[mchustle]

Bump for logs added??

 

[snowborder714]

Looks like you have a DTC for your coolant temp sensor.

Add CombinedFT to your logged values, as that will help. Also add your wideband to the logged values.

 

[mchustle]

Looks like you have a DTC for your coolant temp sensor.

Add CombinedFT to your logged values, as that will help. Also add your wideband to the logged values.

Yea i meant to ask about the cts, One of my wires broke out of the pigtail/clip, does anyone know which wire goes to which prong on the senor so I can straight wire it?

Ill add the Combined ft I meant to, but forgot. I tried to log everything for you all if you couldnt tell .
As for the WB, I have the AEM uego, do you care to give me a quick run down of setting that up with link and logging it. I know my AFRE doesnt match the WB on Idle i think it is bouncing around 15.3-15.5, which I'm pretty sure is a tad lean.

Thanks again for all the help and is there anything else you want me to log?

 

[snowborder714]

CTS - http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/151542278-post39.html

AEM:
installnewsensor [ECMTuning - wiki]
aemwb [ECMTuning - wiki]

 

[mchustle]

ok thanks for the links ill get those logged tomorrow and fix the cts. Like I said earlier I dont have internet access at the shop, so what numbers should I look for to know its "safe" to start cruse tuning, basically so I can drive it home from the shop since im off Saturday.

 

[snowborder714]

Since link utilizes the stock ECU maps, you shouldn't have to worry about anything not being "safe".

 

[mchustle]

Ok I threw in the injectors today and set the global according to the wiki for evo 8 injectors since as far as i know the 8 and 9 injectors are the same with the exception of the spray pattern. Here is a log of my drive home from the shop I took it really easy just to be safe please let me know what is ok and what is bad and needs work. thanks in advance for any help. And the log is to big to attach so I had to host it on mediashare, I hope that isnt a problem. I didnt know a way to make the file smaller.
log.2011.11.04-02.elg

 

[mchustle]

Oh yea and I fixed the CTS.

 

[Calan]

And the log is to big to attach so I had to host it on mediashare, I hope that isnt a problem. I didnt know a way to make the file smaller.

You just select the portion of the log you want (hold down the left mouse button while dragging in the graph display), right-click on the selection to get the menu, and then under "Selection" click on "Clip to selection" and save the log as another name.

 

[snowborder714]

Fuel trims are way off, at least by looking at the small portion of idling at the end of the log. Have you watched all these videos yet, especially the last one (will help you set fuel trims)?
ECMTuning, Inc.

 

[mchustle]

Yea I've watched them all, but had forgotten about that one. I'll follow that video and try to get the FTs in line for idle and cruise, then ill report back with a log and see what you all think about it. Thanks again for all the help from everyone, especially you snowborder. I would never be able to get this stuff right without you all, hopefully after this time ill be able to do it on my own without so much help . On a sidenote I email ecmtuning and they set me up with a login, so im going to go lurk over there and try to read up some more. And thanks for the info on shortening the logs Calan.

 

[mchustle]

Not looking good for my tuning abilities . But I can not get the Airflowperrev to 25, and I cant get my CFT right either. Here is a log where I focused more on the CFT and less About the AFPR, and then i did a cruise log and auto adjusted the maf, and here is a final short cruise log after all that and its still not right. Any pointers?

 

[Calan]

Which injectors are you on now?

EDIT:

NM... I see you're on the Evos now

 

[snowborder714]

Looking at the idle portion of the latest log, your CombinedFT is good.

One thing you need to adjust is your BISS screw. This is based on the ISCPosition value. You want that to be around 30 at idle (with the car up to temp). So I'd say go out and adjust that first. Move the BISS screw slowly and once you move it a bit, let the car sit for a minute or two and settle in.

In the video, he shows adjusting AirFlowPerRev first. Did you try and do this?

 

[mchustle]

Which injectors are you on now?

EDIT:

NM... I see you're on the Evos now

Correct the evo IX's and they are being a pain because the deadtime is lower than stock from what ive read.