1g trans in 2g, and replacement/fix of rear and front end.

[ditchmagnet]

So my rear end and front end went out on my car, i was told it would cost about 3000 bucks to fix. does that sound right? and is it a hard thing to replace? also, im thinking about getting a 2g gsx...does a 1g trans work in a 2g? it has a 2600, thats the only reason i ask, or would it be better to just put the 2600 in a 2g trans?
just thinking
-thanks.

 

[ditchmagnet]

Ok, now im thinking of just getting it running again. what rear diffs and front ends will be compatible with it?
Also, the place I had look at my car told me that the rear end was bad and the front end was bad. What would need to be replaced having to do with the front end? the transfer case? what else would there be?
just need some info.
thanks

 

[topstreet]

If you give a little more info, I would be willing to help you out. When you say "Front End" what are you reffering to? The trans?

Where does the 1g/ 2g stuff come into play. What your saying doesnt really make sense to me. I am guessing that others feel the same way because no one has stepped in and attempted to help yet.

1g/2g trannies are not interchangeable. I would like to know what happened to the car to make you raise this question.

I hope I am able to assist you,

Jake

 

[ditchmagnet]

OK, Sorry it sounded so bizzare. the 2g/1g stuff had to do with me getting a 2g gsx, then taking my 1g trans into the 2g since the 1g already has a 2600 clutch installed. (but i realized that would just be stupid even if i did set up the mounts)
But ive decided i want to just fix my 1g and let the 2g dream go on for a bit longer.

what happend was i decided to do a launch with my new 2600, well, that finished off the 3bolt rear end...well i just kept driving it with out and then i guess it just wore out the front end (thats what the shop i took it too told me) so now if i put it in gear i can let out the clutch and just hear grindy noises... but sometimes if i play with it i can get it to engage, but if it goes over a bump it cant handle the pressure and losses power and goes grindy again. so thats where im at rightnow. is my trans screwed? or just the center diff or transfer case? does anyoneknow? did that make more sense?

Also, i just thought i would mention, it seems like the pedal pressure was really stiff when they FIRST installed the 2600, then over time (i put about 2k miles on it till now i think.) it seems like its not near as hard to press...maybe i was just getting used to it, but i dont think so. is that normal?

-thanks so much.

 

[topstreet]

It is normal for the clutch to loosen up a little when you get some miles on it.

Otherwise, it sounds like you may be on with the center diff. I am not sure what else may have taken a crap.

BTW: the clutch will work in the 1g or 2g.

I think that the situation sucks. But I think that you are better off not driving the car with a blown rear diff any more.

I dont know what your cash situation but, this may be a good time to do a 4bolt rear. I would have a professional take a look at the trans. Shep is the one who put my trans together. Not saying there are not others out there that cant do as good of a job, just saying I like the service I have had.

 

[ditchmagnet]

Ya, money is kinda tight, so i think i am going to have to put in a replacement 3 bolt, unless i can find a 4bolt setup at the junkyard. and i havent been driving it, i bought an s-10, but i dont even have plates yet, i miss dsm too much and im selling the truck. i cant even drive the car now even if i wanted too (which i do) so i dont know. im hoping i can do the work myself even though i dont have very much experience. i guess ill contact the shop that looked at it before and see if they can tell me exactly what they thought was wrong. if i replace the rear and center diff, and work on it on my own, do you have an idea of an average cost?
-thanks

 

[topstreet]

The costs all depend on what is all wrong and what is around you for parts.

The center diff would involve trans removal and disassembly. This is the only reason I suggested a pro. Although, I have done all of my previous trannies myself and had fairly good luck. Vfaq.com has a pretty nice tranny tech article. Before you jump into anything, I would take a look there first.

Good luck to you man! Let me know if there is anything else you would like to know, and I will do my best to help.

Jake

 

[ditchmagnet]

just one last question:
can any 4bolt work? so any 92 and up awd rear?
and what about the center diff? can any newer one work?
and whats a front diff?

 

[90blacktsiawd]

Top Street is right about the tranny not just swapping over. It can be done however. A new tranny mount would have to be made as the 2g mounts are on the opposite side of a 1g tranny.

I've talked to a few shops about this as i really miss my 2g but i dont wanna pay to build a tranny again so i was looking into finding a shell and swapping it all over.

 

[ditchmagnet]

In addition to my other questions there at the end, as i was calling junkyards today they were asking me if i had an auto or a manual, and they said the rear diff they had was an auto so it wouldnt work on my manual. is there acually a difference between auto and manual rear diffs on the awd?

and do 2g rear 4bolts work on 1gs?

 

[topstreet]

I dont know about the 2g rears, but the autos more than likely have a different ratio.

I would just stick with replacing apples for apples. Keep the bananas out of the picture. My 2 cents on it.

The front diff is just like the rear diff.... Just up front. When you install the front axles, you are putting those right into the front diff carrier. The center diff then will allow the difference in wheel speed between front and rear. Basically the output shaft and the front diff have one shaft that rides (in the tranny) inside of the other. These both are connected to the Viscous coupler. This VC then acts as a Front to Rear limited slip. I hope that made sence.

Go to that link I showed you and check out the tranny rebuild. There are a lot of detailed pics on there.

Jake