front dummy shafts???

[spidy3]

Just bought a 90 tsi awd and was thinking about making it rwd. I have heard you could put dummy shafts in to replace front half shafts. Does anyone know where to purchase these? or would they need to be custom made?


Thanks,

Domenic

 

[2-0turbo]

Just bought a 90 tsi awd and was thinking about making it rwd. I have heard you could put dummy shafts in to replace front half shafts. Does anyone know where to purchase these? or would they need to be custom made?


Thanks,

Domenic

Just take everything but the cup/axle spline section off of your stock axles. Or, find some used ones and sacrafice those.

 

[bradj80]

undefined i've been thinking about doing this as well for a short stint in time so all i do is remove the outer cv shafts but does this not put pretty large torque numbers on the rear end that it's not used to please let me know asap as i need to do this sad demotion of my awd for a little while
thanks

 

[Savage Talon]

I would get rid of the shafts all together and put in rubber freeze plugs. They are rubber with a bolt thru the center and washers on either side. When you tighten the bolt the washers compress the rubber expanding it. Works really well too.

 

[92awddsm]

I would get rid of the shafts all together and put in rubber freeze plugs. They are rubber with a bolt thru the center and washers on either side. When you tighten the bolt the washers compress the rubber expanding it. Works really well too.

That sounds good for the tranny but you still need to install the outer front cv joints and torque them as normal so the hub/bearing assembly doesnt come apart.

 

[bradj80]

right, never even thought of the bearrings, the only thing is when i went to move my car this afternoon, (my driver side cv is shot the knuckle on the outer cv inside the hub is disintigrated) the cv shaft is not spinning and destroying everything but its gone ya know but when i went to move my car the car did not want to move, i still have power to 3 wheels but it just doesn't want to go anywhere could this be something else, the only reason i want to do something dumb like make an awd a rwd is because i'm seriously broke because of the car and can't afford new cv's

 

[bradj80]

wait wait wait, you don't even need bearrings if the cv's aren't in so if you live the inners in that would work, but i still don't think the rear end would handle that much and that would not be cool

 

[92awddsm]

right, never even thought of the bearrings, the only thing is when i went to move my car this afternoon, (my driver side cv is shot the knuckle on the outer cv inside the hub is disintigrated) the cv shaft is not spinning and destroying everything but its gone ya know but when i went to move my car the car did not want to move, i still have power to 3 wheels but it just doesn't want to go anywhere could this be something else, the only reason i want to do something dumb like make an awd a rwd is because i'm seriously broke because of the car and can't afford new cv's

Well, you are also going to need to install a vce into the transmission for it to work in 2wd and is still going to cost another $100-200. Wiithout it, the tranny will not pull without all 4 axles installed.

 

[HighPsi92GST]

Something tells me the rear is not going to like this much

 

[Maglin]

Well, you are also going to need to install a vce into the transmission for it to work in 2wd and is still going to cost another $100-200. Wiithout it, the tranny will not pull without all 4 axles installed.

Wrong. A VCE will stop output to the Xfer case and thus make it FWD. You need to either install a Center Diff Spool or have the Center diff welded to try and make the AWD tranny RWD. The rear end will not like having all that torque going through it. It will eventually kill it. I think if you wanted to be a serious RWD you can maybe get a rear from a Conquest or Starion. I'm not to sure if they are simular and I'm sure their is fabrication involved to mount it up. You can get the center spool from TRE I know. I have one in my tranny and it's so much more wicked on a hard launch. I used to have a little AWD torque steer before and now I have zero torque steer. And I can oversteer on command with just the press of the acell pedel.

You can leave the passenger side CV hub in the tranny and leave half the Drivers side in to disconnect the front wheels. It won't rob to much power. The expandable freeze plug is a very good idea. I'm not totally sure if the front shafts need to be installed though as they might be needed to hold some stuff in place in the tranny. Might want to look at either a tranny manual or contact TRE or Shep about doing this and what it might do to the tranny.

I really want a RWD turbo car as they are very fun. I'm just going to get a 240sx and drop in a SR20DETT notch top with the 6 speed tranny. Stock they put out 250 HP which is more than enough to have a good time in such a light car.

 

[92awddsm]

Wrong. A VCE will stop output to the Xfer case and thus make it FWD. You need to either install a Center Diff Spool or have the Center diff welded to try and make the AWD tranny RWD. The rear end will not like having all that torque going through it. It will eventually kill it. I think if you wanted to be a serious RWD you can maybe get a rear from a Conquest or Starion. I'm not to sure if they are simular and I'm sure their is fabrication involved to mount it up. You can get the center spool from TRE I know. I have one in my tranny and it's so much more wicked on a hard launch. I used to have a little AWD torque steer before and now I have zero torque steer. And I can oversteer on command with just the press of the acell pedel.

You can leave the passenger side CV hub in the tranny and leave half the Drivers side in to disconnect the front wheels. It won't rob to much power. The expandable freeze plug is a very good idea. I'm not totally sure if the front shafts need to be installed though as they might be needed to hold some stuff in place in the tranny. Might want to look at either a tranny manual or contact TRE or Shep about doing this and what it might do to the tranny.

I really want a RWD turbo car as they are very fun. I'm just going to get a 240sx and drop in a SR20DETT notch top with the 6 speed tranny. Stock they put out 250 HP which is more than enough to have a good time in such a light car.

And how does it stop power to the transfer case if it locks both front and rear output together? A center spool will do the same but just more difficult to install and a stonger peice all together(eliminates weak center spiders). If it stopped output to the rear, why do some rally drivers use them to help create oversteer? I think you need do do some homework on what it really does before you tell me Im wrong. Anyway, I did have a tre spool installed and I also have a vce sitting on the shelf so I think I can speak from experience.

 

[Maglin]

Well isn't the VCE to disable the output to the rear output So you can dyno a AWD car on a 2 wheel drive dyno? I've never needed one but that is what it says on TRE's website. If I'm wrong then their discription needs changing. I have a few buddies that don't want to drive 5 hours away to use a AWD dyno when we have a 2 wheel drive dyno in town and the VCE looked to be the thing to get. But Now that I think about it it makes since you just have to drop the Xfer case and driveline as it locks the shafts together.

Sorry. I didn't think fully how it was working. So my appoligies.

 

[92awddsm]

Well isn't the VCE to disable the output to the rear output So you can dyno a AWD car on a 2 wheel drive dyno? I've never needed one but that is what it says on TRE's website. If I'm wrong then their discription needs changing. I have a few buddies that don't want to drive 5 hours away to use a AWD dyno when we have a 2 wheel drive dyno in town and the VCE looked to be the thing to get. But Now that I think about it it makes since you just have to drop the Xfer case and driveline as it locks the shafts together.

Sorry. I didn't think fully how it was working. So my appoligies.

You are right. The vce locks both front and rear but in order to dyno fwd, the tc and driveshaft have to be removed. The vc is what varies torque split so when it is removed and a solid coupler installed, the split is then a true 50/50. The diff spool does the same thing but just replaces the spider gears in the center diff because they become the weak link.

 

[russman]

Just to give you an idea of a RWD DSM watch this video of a kid trying to blow his 3 bolt rear end. Watch it until the end the last burn is the best! I'm sure this car isn't going to last long but it looks like it would be fun. While your there checkout the Mitsubishi catagory theres some good videos in there.