good shop to buy a short block around oh,mi,ky,in

[pitbull419]

im looking to buy a short block
and was wondering where you guys think a good place to buy from
im looking for a block that will support 600 hp
i would like tp shop aroud before i but one
these are some of the places ive looked in to

slowboyracing.com
dsmparts.com
bucherracing.com
jacksonautomachine.com
straightlinespecialties.com
and a couple others

if you think you know a good place
drop me the site or if you have a short block for sale
let me know

thanks

 

[project_tsi]

If you've got the cash, FFWD is one of the best, if not the best.

www.ffwdconnection.com

 

[Tom N]

John Shepherd runs a Buschur block
Brent Rau runs a Magnus block
Martin from AMS runs a AMS block

Any of those shops should be able to build you a good block

 

[wishihadatalon]

Buschur has made a claim "We build the best 4g63 period.." I would say they do a damn good job. Just look at Shepherd. Last time I read the thread on Buschur forums he ran the same motor for the entire year last year.

 

[Spoolin4Ever]

It's best to here from people that own these blocks, not someone that 'heard something', or 'read something'.

But frankly, they all have pretty good reps. It's more a matter of calling and emailing them, get a feel for who you like dealing with.

 

[ISUJakey]

slowboyracing.com

No. When the SBR-Osofast relationship fell apart, when SBR screwed over a guy on our local board over a turbo rebuild, and when SBR started selling Shitseye turbos, any chance I would ever think about doing business with them went down the toilet.

dsmparts.com

I do not know a single person between the 3 DSM forums I frequent running a head, shortblock, or longblock from them.

bucherracing.com

Buschur Racing would be an excellent choice (note the proper spelling).

jacksonautomachine.com

No.

straightlinespecialties.com

Is SLS still alive? Nick used to be active on our local board but fell of the face of the Earth months ago.

Personally I'd go with Buschur Racing or EnginTecs. Mitch's work (EnginTecs) is a good as it gets and he is very supportive of the crowd on here (screen name Suprata).
http://www.engintecs.com/

As someone already mentioned, FFWD would be an excellent choice also. I have done some business with Darren and it seemed like any e-mail I ever sent him was returned immediately whether it was 6AM or 10PM. Plus if you have stock cams that you want to get rid of, he gives in store credit for good cores.

 

[MILITISINVICTUS]

What's wrong with Jacksons Auto Machine?

 

[1gfromND]

Yeah I think Im sold on FFWD seems like they know what the are doing there. I plan to buy some parts soon from them so so far it sounds good. But I do have to ask what IS wrong with JAM? Is there anybody who has done business with them? They seem pretty clean cut judging from their website but 1st hand experience is best. Later Sam

 

[Grimis]

give mark at overbore.com a call, they have short blocks there with the thrust fix for crank walk and i got quoted under $2k for a built up block with scat rods and i think he said ross pistons, or was it moley.. but any ways 2850 would get you a new engine with a 3year 100k mile warrenty, and MOST places dont offer that.

 

[ISUJakey]

What's wrong with Jacksons Auto Machine?

But I do have to ask what IS wrong with JAM?

There is a post around here somewhere where a member posted an exact e-mail response he received from JAM with the JAM representative not having a clue what velocity stacks are. If their intake manifold package is so good, one would certainly think that a JAM representative would know that velocity stacks are. People believe that because that JAM offers heads which are CNC ported that they are God's gift to the DSM word. Porting is an art, not something every Billy Buttf*ck can do. If their porting is so excellent, why are they not publicizing CFD simulations showing the performance of their heads. Could I call them and ask? Yes. Do I have any intentions to? No. Why? Because just like SBR, JAM will never see one cent of any of my money so I really could not care any less. If you all want to support either or both of those businesses, be my guest.

give mark at overbore.com a call, they have short blocks there with the thrust fix for crank walk and i got quoted under $2k for a built up block with scat rods and i think he said ross pistons, or was it moley.. but any ways 2850 would get you a new engine with a 3year 100k mile warrenty, and MOST places dont offer that.

Best of luck with that operation.

Like my earlier posted recommendations because they are businesses which, to date, have not attempted to re-invent the "DSM wheel." I always get a kick out of new businesses who claim to have these new incredible, revolutionary innovations available to the DSM owner because 9 times out of 10, the shop will be bankrupt within months or the shop will be ripping people out of incredibly amonts of money. I am going to be very interested to see what kind of R&D Darren King & FFWD is doing (as posted on their website) regarding head work. I have an idea but I am not going to begin speculating.

 

[Stapl3]

im looking for a block that will support 600 hp

Stock 6 bolt.

 

[Slowboy]

im looking to buy a short block
and was wondering where you guys think a good place to buy from
im looking for a block that will support 600 hp
i would like tp shop aroud before i but one
these are some of the places ive looked in to

slowboyracing.com
dsmparts.com
bucherracing.com
jacksonautomachine.com
straightlinespecialties.com
and a couple others

if you think you know a good place
drop me the site or if you have a short block for sale
let me know

thanks

There are many good people on your list, the fact remains however none of them build and machine as many motors in one year as we do here at SBR. We take great pride in our work, so much pride that our new equipment is the very best you can buy right now. Just over the past two years we have invested over 275k in new automotive machining equipment alone, and hired the very best machinist to operate them.

If anyone on this list has a doubt, I ask you to come take a personal tour of our shop, and I will introdude you to everyone myself. If you will not come take this tour, or come visit us in person I ask you to not speak of things which you have no first hand knowledge of.

To the original poster, I suggest making a few phone calls, or visit a shop if you can before making your final decision. As well, it would also be great if you did business with one of the many great vendors that support DSMTUNERS!

MGH

 

[Jon Lane]

Best of luck with that operation.

Like my earlier posted recommendations because they are businesses which, to date, have not attempted to re-invent the "DSM wheel." I always get a kick out of new businesses who claim to have these new incredible, revolutionary innovations available to the DSM owner because 9 times out of 10, the shop will be bankrupt within months or the shop will be ripping people out of incredibly amonts of money.

I spent 90 minutes on the phone with Overbore and unless somebody's a complete liar and a hell of an actor, apparently they ship hundreds of reliable 4G63's, including what certainly looks like a bulletproof 7-bolt thrust bearing fix. I also have reason to believe their machine operations are top-drawer, this being a long term, 3rd generation operation with a sterling reputation.

I can't begin to compare them to other shops and I admit that freely. But to associate them with a 90% likelihood of bankruptcy or ripping folks off (on reasonably priced motors) isn't only unfair, it's ungrounded.

 

[ISUJakey]

I can't begin to compare them to other shops and I admit that freely. But to associate them with a 90% likelihood of bankruptcy or ripping folks off (on reasonably priced motors) isn't only unfair, it's ungrounded.

I was not directing that comment towards overbore directly, it was a "general" comment, hence the space between the two paragraphs. I thought that was obvious, but obviously not.

Best of luck to the original poster, this thread will now probably turn into a question of not who can serve him best, but who can market their products to him best.

I'm done, have a nice weekend.

 

[Spoolin4Ever]

Kinda sounds like vendor bashing going on to me...

 

[GVR4592]

I would call Mitch at http://www.engintecs.com, or Buschur Racing.

 

[ceedawg]

I have a freshly built blck(6 bolt) with Ross 9.0:1pistons,crower rods,butcher crank,ARP mains,new oil pump,waterpump ,everything new built by FFWD I'm willing to sell.I neither have the time nor the $$ to start and finsh my project at this time.Other responsibiities have popped up.I'm selling it for exactly what Darren charged me for it.PM me for more info if interested,I'll send pics and of course my receipt which has all the details of the rebuild.I must say that Darren at Ffwd did a masterful job.This thing looks almost to sweet to install in anyones car.Excellent workmanship and minty clean work.I really hate to sell it but I have to move on to other things.

 

[Grimis]

Best of luck with that operation.

Like my earlier posted recommendations because they are businesses which, to date, have not attempted to re-invent the "DSM wheel." I always get a kick out of new businesses who claim to have these new incredible, revolutionary innovations available to the DSM owner because 9 times out of 10, the shop will be bankrupt within months or the shop will be ripping people out of incredibly amonts of money. I am going to be very interested to see what kind of R&D Darren King & FFWD is doing (as posted on their website) regarding head work. I have an idea but I am not going to begin speculating.

thats funny, if you did any homework, this guys family has been doing this stuff sence the 1930's, um, i think if it was bankrupt it would of happend, and i know about 13 other guys that have these engines and havent had a problem with them and there over 3years old. so make sure you know what your talking about before you speak it.

 

[pitbull419]

im looking to buy a 6bolt short block but would like to
find one in oh,mi,ky,in, maybe virginia
with a decent reputation
and fair prices if i cant find one i think ill feel safe dealing with
around this area im ganna order from jackson auto machine
so if anybody knows of one or has dealt with one
pleze tell me how it went good or bad
thanks

 

[biglady112]

I'm sure Buschur Racing is in Ohio. So is Sheperd Racing. AMS is in Chicago. I could go on, please do some research.

Steven

 

[TSIfreek]

I would recomend engintecs out of chicago. Machining is flawless. They specalize in the 4g63 motor. www.engintecs.com. Mitch is the guy you want to talk to.

 

[wishihadatalon]

Buschur builds one hell of a motor and he is in ohio.

 

[pitbull419]

i clicked the engintecs.com link
and it says its been hacked it says cracker was here
does anybody know where logicperformance is located
i couldnt find it on there site i only found a number its a 734 area code so think its mich
i have been searching but was wondering if maybe there was some i havnt ran across that maybe somebody on here knows about
thanks for your input

 

[ISUJakey]

My God your posts are awful, read much?
http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=171456

You already have a thread virtually identical to this, why start another?
http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=230869

The EnginTecs website works fine for me:
http://www.engintecs.com/

 

[fourreGsixty3]

I would say Buschur, its the only shop that comes to mind, race proven and plenty of choices to use for internals, that engntecs doesn't have that great of choices for rods, and only one flavor of pistons? Not that much info on the engines either. oh yeah Buschur is in Ohio.
Oh yeah and to ISUJakey, dont post just to insult someone, if your going to post give some useful information on what they are asking about or dont post.

Dustin