Carbon Fiber Intake Manifold

[eXploitedGST]

This thread is not to advertise my product.. simply because it does not exsist yet. BUT i would like to know peoples thoughts on my soon to be releasing Carbon Fiber Intake manifold for the 4g63 engine. It is constructed of aluminum flanges, and REAL carbon fiber runners and collector. It will be multiple layered carbon fiber for extra strength when boost is applied... and i will be testing it to hold about 50psi for 1 hour constant to prove its strength... any comments, suggestions, questions? Ive attached a pic of some carbon fiber round peice i made just to see how to work with it.

 

[CycloneAWD]

I think that would make a really cool speed part man...Props on working with the CF I heard it can be a handful when doing more than making hoods and such...

 

[Guerillah]

Will it look and perform like this Honda manifold does?

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[Morphius]

I'l admit that in concept, it is an interesting idea. But have you ever worked with composites before? (Besides laying the fabric around a tube)I'm not out to poke at your intelligence. Just want to bring to your attention a few things.

You are working with a very complex shape for forming the material and core.

Depending on your skill you may have difficulty getting a good sealed intake built.

There is a science to designing an intake. Runner and plenumn design are not cook book.

The matrix could sustain heat damage.

 

[eXploitedGST]

it will look somewhat like the honda manifolds... for obvious reasons of them both being intake manifolds. yes i have worked with this material before so it is not a new concept to me or my company. Its similar to Fiberglass sheets only more expencive and better looking and of course stronger.

 

[98TsiAWD]

Someone on here already has a CF intake manifold. It was a one-off, its in the gallery somewhere.

 

[eXploitedGST]

I searched a little bit for em but was unable to find any in the gallery. anyways this one will not be a one of a kind custom.. i will be makin a quite a few depending on demand for them. Prices will be around $600? not sure exactly on a price yet here.

 

[Morphius]

Originally posted by eXploitedGST
it will look somewhat like the honda manifolds... for obvious reasons of them both being intake manifolds. yes i have worked with this material before so it is not a new concept to me or my company. Its similar to Fiberglass sheets only more expencive and better looking and of course stronger.

What your company's name?

Other products?

Web site?

 

[eXploitedGST]

www.exploitedracing.com

 

[98TsiAWD]

Originally posted by eXploitedGST
I searched a little bit for em but was unable to find any in the gallery. anyways this one will not be a one of a kind custom.. i will be makin a quite a few depending on demand for them. Prices will be around $600? not sure exactly on a price yet here.

Yeah I dont think its labeled so the search probly wont come up.

If you do make it, you will have to have a before and after dyno. With the only change in mods being the intake manifold, no tuning or anything changed.

 

[eXploitedGST]

Ill put one on my very own DSM... which there are pictures of on the site under the DSM showcar page. and dyno before and after at 15psi.

 

[dsmturboawd]

why bother?

 

[AutoX DSM]

Originally posted by dsmturboawd
why bother?

Why Not?

I think it's a fairly cool idea if it can be pulled off correctly. I'm a little worried about thermal damage/degradation to the epoxy but I'm sure that can be worked out (maybe a mounting flange of some other material with low heat transfer.... mmmmm titanium $$$$$). I would put a thermocouple on the base of a stock intake runner and see how hot it gets during some spirited driving. CF will derfintely resist heat soak and the heating of the intake charge that comes with it.

I think it's good that some people/companies are trying to do different things for the DSM platform. We can't just sit around and wait for the same 10 companies to come up with all the 'new' ideas can we?


Yay, innovation (my $0.02)

 

[gritsak]

the honda one posted above made significant more power then a JG manifold (whats typically run on high HP turbo hondas) when tested back to back. i think it would be something to look into, but like every other product its going to have to prove itself first which takes time and money.

ide make one up and try and test it out back to back against a magnus or forrester. if it cant make anymore power then one of those its not worth dumping money into, besides being able to say you have a cool CF intake manifold;-)

 

[MNGSX]

I thought about making one too.... I'd use a more complex mold. It would be a lost foam process.

A foam mold coated with the release agent would be made such that the cloth is layed up in one piece plenum and runners all at once.

Then you cut the mold out of the finished form. It is stronger that way.

 

[AutoX DSM]

use the right foam and you can just dissolve it with a chemical wash, wont harm the CF either.

 

[RipperXX]

If it is proven to hold up to the pressure a high HP, high boost engine can throw at it, and shows power gains over the Magnus, I would be very intrested in one for my next DSM, which will be my true project..

(this one was just a learning experiance)

 

[focusedrage]

If it made just as much power as say the magnus, or forester, but cost a franklin more, i would get it... its lighter and it resists heat soak. And i dont care how much of a penny pinching, nothing but performance, some one is, deep down a carbon manifold looks dang cool.

 

[dsmturboawd]

this just seems like more of a looks thing than a performance thing to me. why not just get a magnus one and be done with it. the only benifit this one has it that its made from unpainted carbon fiber, sweeeet .

 

[focusedrage]

you would think that a crowd that likes to squeeze as much power as posible would like the subtle benefts of a carbon over aluminum, which does stay hot for a long time.

I like the idea of a lost foam process with a chemical wash...

Also that aluminum strip on the hondas with space fore holes to be added is key

 

[talonted_one]

I personally have a carbon fiber fetish( oops did I say that?) . If it performs up to par with the BJ's Forresters,and Magnus and be around the same price; rest assured I will have one.

 

[rdrkt]

Originally posted by eXploitedGST
i will be testing it to hold about 50psi for 1 hour constant to prove its strength...

That would be good enough for me. After that your next test is the dyno. If it performs as good or better than other manifolds Im sure you will have a ton of buyers.

 

[Groomz]

Estimated price? I know that the Magnus runs around 600$ for a SMIM, so I would guess that you would need to be within 100$ to be competitive. Whats the price on the Honda manifold? That would look damn good in an S2K engine bay.

9000RPM redline is soooo nice. Have you been in one?

 

[jdmawd]

vac and boost leak nighmare

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[eXploitedGST]

What do you mean vacuum and boost leak nightmare? Carbon fiber in its raw state (how it arrives to my shop) would yes be a nightware in that sence.. but once applying resin, several layers of carbonfiber, THEN a gel coat over all of it to give it a smooth look (gel coats are thick) it will be sealed very good.