ETE32, Green, 20G??? I know it's been asked a million times.

[cucumber]

Okay, I need to know what turbo I need to run to achieve my goals. I want a daily-driven FWD high 12 second-low 13 second GS-T Spyder. I've been doing my research on my turbos, (and yes, the supporting mods to boot, I'm not ignorant) and I want to know everyone's opinion on the three turbos I named. Also, is an external wastegate crucial to the car, persay, because the ETE32 is internally gated and I was looking at the internally gated Green Model. I was just wanting to know everyone's opinion, and I'm not trying to start a flame war here.

Thanks.

 

[90GSX]

Any of those turbos would meet your ET goals, and be very streetable. All are available with an internal WG, or External WG; either will work if setup properly.

Personally, I have an ETA32 in a full street car, which pulls consistent low to mid 12's on a very worn out, low compression, 150K mi. motor.

Good luck with your decision.

 

[BatmanGSX]

I don't want to say "search" because it's not allowed but if you KNOW this has come up why wouldn't you? Just curious.

I think any one of those turbos can make a 13 second FWD in the right hands and probably a 12 second one. Personally, I like the Green and the 20G better. It's all going to come down to personal preference here, on your part. Us telling you what we think may help a little but it's not the way to go. For instance, I have never ran any of those turbos. Once I idled my car for five minutes with a 20G on it... Seemed to work great. Other than that you will get people who have ran the turbos discussed and they will likely tell you to get the same turbo they have, possibly without any good reason.

All of those will fit your car the same way. I'm sure the 20G would be cheapest. Just choose the one that fits your budget and personal taste.

 

[IPT]

Just pick one.

I would lean toward the either one of the 50 trim turbos. Just for the reason that they have 50 trims. It LOVES boost.

The ETE32 will come on boost quicker than the green.

Also when it comes down to the internal wastegate.... I have talked to Robert and he said that the internally gated green really only will go as low as 18-20 psi. The ETE32 has been as low as 9 psi. If you plan on running 18-20 psi all the time the green internal will work.

 

[InferiorWang]

how long does it take to spool some of those

 

[BatmanGSX]

Originally posted by InferiorWang
how long does it take to spool some of those

To what boost? A turbo will take longer to hit "max boost" if it is 25psi rather than 15psi. Spool "time" is pretty irrelivant when picking a turbo in my opinion. Especially between such a similar group of turbos. Also there are a million other factors. Do you have a cat? Do you have a 3" O2? A 50 shot? What are you comparing it to? If a 14B is your "normal" then all those are slow. If a 20G is your "normal" then all of those are "normal" or close to it. If a T66 is your "normal" then... you get the idea.

 

[IPT]

Most people I hear with greens and have ridden in fully spool some where around 3800-4000 rpms. Most to the low end of that.

The ete32 I hear most people get full spool around 3300-3500 rpms

 

[Ludachris]

They're all damn similar. I've heard great things from people who own each turbo. Many shops say that the 20g runs better with an external wastegate, just something to keep in mind.

 

[cucumber]

Originally posted by BatmanGSX
I don't want to say "search" because it's not allowed but if you KNOW this has come up why wouldn't you? Just curious.

Well, because of the fact that no one really compared internally gated turbos. I know that you're very knowledgable, as are many people who post here, but if you are curious about why I ask a question, don't answer. It's that simple. So if you KNOW this has been asked a million times, why did you answer it?

 

[jdmawd]

Originally posted by IPT
Just pick one.

I would lean toward the either one of the 50 trim turbos. Just for the reason that they have 50 trims. It LOVES boost.

The ETE32 will come on boost quicker than the green.

Also when it comes down to the internal wastegate.... I have talked to Robert and he said that the internally gated green really only will go as low as 18-20 psi. The ETE32 has been as low as 9 psi. If you plan on running 18-20 psi all the time the green internal will work.

with my ete32 i have boost set to 15psi for my first couple tuning runs. i don't have anything to compare this to but i see 15 psi by 3K that's totally untuned. with the 39 mm internal gate and manual boost controller. boost starts to spool as low as 19 hundred. after that boost rockets to 15 by 3K and just stops no creep it almost like boost cut . i personally love the ETE32. not to say you're other choices are not just as capable of what you want because they have been proven in AWD cars. the ete32 with my setup spools almost as quick as the 14b did.

 

[BatmanGSX]

Originally posted by cucumber


Well, because of the fact that no one really compared internally gated turbos. I know that you're very knowledgable, as are many people who post here, but if you are curious about why I ask a question, don't answer. It's that simple. So if you KNOW this has been asked a million times, why did you answer it?

Well, if you didn't notice I was trying to be helpful. Maybe I'll stop doing that now, since you just chewed my ass.

 

[GSX4LIFE]

Have any of you seen anything about the AGP BB turbos yet. I have thier L2R. Heres a pic.

 

[jdmawd]

most here have seen the l2r. unlike the machv board.

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[GSX4LIFE]

OK Sorry. I just didnt see any posts. There are a ton of posts on DSMtalk though. And yeah, not much on MachV, because you cant talk about other venders. Might be taking this the wrong way, but were you being sarcastic? Am I not welcome here? If you didnt mean anything please disregard, and forgive my ignorance

 

[jdmawd]

Originally posted by GSX4LIFE
OKSorry. I just didnt see any posts. There are a ton of posts on DSMtalk though. And yeah, not much on MachV, because you cant talk about other venders. Might be taking this the wrong way, but were you being sarcastic? Am I not welcome here? If you didnt mean anything please disregard, and forgive my ignorance

nah not at all, i remember you posting that turbo on the machV board. and really could not say much about it. because you cant talk about stuff they dont sell . not being sarcastic, just saying a couple members have that turbo and can give you some positive feed back when it comse time for tuning ad stuff like that. the owners of agp post here quite often also.

I just didnt see any posts

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7679&highlight=*l2r*

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3820&highlight=*l2r*

 

[GSX4LIFE]

Oh, JDM. I didnt realize it was you. Wazzup. wastnt paying attention to the names. :laugh: And I need to open my eyes, there is a post, duh. AGP L2R installed.

 

[jdmawd]

Originally posted by GSX4LIFE
Oh, JDM. I didnt realize it was you. Wazzup. wastnt paying attention to the names. And I need to open my eyes, there is a post, duh. AGP L2R installed.

its all good man, no search whores here welcome aboard.

 

[GSX4LIFE]

JDM check your pms if you havent already.

 

[jdmawd]

Originally posted by GSX4LIFE
JDM check your pms if you havent already.

i did, check yours

 

[larryd]

out of those 3 turbos Id choose the Green.. I would get it becuz it spools a little later then the other 2 and pulls harder up top then the other 2 suposedly.. FWDs best friend is traction and top end pull... ofcourse I was also looking at all 3 of those turbos and siad screw it and went with a AGP L2R.. I also would look into the external gate option unless you intend on running high boost all the time

 

[Slowboy]

50 mm garrett compressor wheel
tdo6 water and oil center
7cm2 turbine housing
tdo6 or tdo6h turbine wheel
mitsu 3" compressor cover
38mm internal gate
adjustable WG actuator

 

[rdrkt]

I just love how you respond by trying to pimp your homemade turbos. When replying to questions no one asked you. Stop spaming our threads

 

[Slowboy]

I just love how you respond by trying to pimp your homemade turbos. When replying to questions no one asked you. Stop spaming our threads

I think it is a fine response to the original question. He asked what turbo would get him to his goals, and I am showing him one of many. Just to show my love, I will show you another one!

Regards,

Mike Huml
www.slowboyracing.com

 

[Slowboy]

t04e compressor cover
60-1 compressor wheel
garrett oil only center, 360 thrust bearing
7cm2 mitsubishi turbine housing
stage III turbine wheel
38 mm flapper
adjustable WG actuator

Regards,

Mike Huml
www.slowboyracing.com
pimp daddy homemade turbo builder guy...... I love all your names for me, so I use them when I can....

 

[jdmawd]

Originally posted by Slowboy


I think it is a fine response to the original question. He asked what turbo would get him to his goals, and I am showing him one of many. Just to show my love, I will show you another one!

Regards,

Mike Huml
www.slowboyracing.com

i have heard nothing but good things about mikes turbo's. i would *definatly* consider his products when its time for a new ball bearing turbo. sorry to here about the car Mike, Chad showed me the PICS of the fire