AGP 50 trim 75% installed

[Mike 99GSX]

Well I received my AGP kit today. So far everything with the install has gone great. My main hurdle so far was the denting of the water pipe and there is a banjo style water line bolt underneath the water pipe that I had to remove to get the compressor housing to fit. The bolt is for the water lines to the turbo that arent used anymore. I went to a parts store and found a 2 piece 90 degree elbow with a barb end on it that is lower profile than the old bolt. It needs to be 2 piece because the bolt threads into the block near the tranny bellhousing so you wouldn't be able to spin in a 1 piece 90. The fit and finish of the kit seems great and AGP immediately called me back on my cell to answer a few of my questions before I started. I should have everything completed by tonight and will update everyone once its finished.

 

[Kingdom]

Congrats! sounds nice. How about some pics?

 

[sunflashx]

I thought everything was supposed to fit without "reshaping" the water pipe?

 

[Mike 99GSX]

Originally posted by sunflashx
I thought everything was supposed to fit without "reshaping" the water pipe?

No chance. I really didn't think this was as big of an ordeal as people make it out to be. I little nerveracking banging on it with a hammer but no big deal. The banjo bolt for the water line that I described was alot more challenging. I'm guessing this is only a 2g issue since I have never heard anyone mention it.

 

[nowayout]

I just went an bought a na water pipe and it eliminate the banjo bolt outlet.

 

[Mike 99GSX]

Originally posted by nowayout
I just went an bought a na water pipe and it eliminate the banjo bolt outlet.

I'm not exactly sure what you mean. I don't know the 1gs as well but on a 2g the banjo bolt isn't attached to the water pipe its in the block with a spacer right under the water pipe. The setup could be entirely different on a 1g for all I know.

 

[ECLIPSE4x4]

Mine fit ok. It was a VERY close fit, but none the less it fit.

I was also thinking since it was such a tight fit, that a 1/2" flange that RRE sells would be a good idea to thrw in there to allow the turbo ityself to be lower by a half inch. I am gonna email AGP later to see what they think of it.

Here is the pic of the flange.

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[Mike 99GSX]

I really don't understand how one could fit and another(mine) could be so off. I'd say I had to dent the pipe to almost half size. There can't be that much difference between a 97 and a 99. Again, I really don't care about bending the pipe and stuff its just wierd how much variance there is depending on who you talk to.

 

[KRAZYKOREAN]

Originally posted by sunflashx
I thought everything was supposed to fit without "reshaping" the water pipe?

Everything does fit without modifications...

 

[Z1500]

You didn't need to dent the water pipe at all. You probably just have the compressor housing clocked a little off. If you rotate it a little bit it will clear just fine.

Kevin

 

[larryd]

Mine cleared the water pipe but it was damned close. As Kevin said if you rotate the compressor housing it should have cleared fine.

 

[Unreal]

Mine doesn't even come close to the waterpipe.

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[UncleBens]

Do any of you guys with the agp garret 50 trim have your intercooler piping go towards the stock ic piping like with a big greddy fmic?

If so, what did you do for the lower IC pipe. I was hoping I could use a straight pipe but I might need some bends in there...i see the lower radiator hose may be in the way. Hard to say from just looking though.

 

[ECLIPSE4x4]

I have the dejon tool lower I/C pipe. I had problems with the elbow AGP sends. It will fit over the compressor outlet but not the dejon tool pipe. So I need to get a 2.25 diameter elbow. FOr temp use thoug, I took the stock lower I/C and cut a section of it to use as an elbow and it works great

 

[Heat]

Originally posted by UncleBens
Do any of you guys with the agp garret 50 trim have your intercooler piping go towards the stock ic piping like with a big greddy fmic?

If so, what did you do for the lower IC pipe.

I was thinking the same thing. I'm planning on a little test fit tomorrow. I was planning on doing that eclipse4x4 said about using part of the stock licp to connect the two

 

[L2RTSiAWD]

Originally posted by UncleBens
Do any of you guys with the agp garret 50 trim have your intercooler piping go towards the stock ic piping like with a big greddy fmic?

If so, what did you do for the lower IC pipe. I was hoping I could use a straight pipe but I might need some bends in there...i see the lower radiator hose may be in the way. Hard to say from just looking though.

No. Most of us short-routed piping.

 

[ZenkaiRacerDsM]

Originally posted by Unreal
Mine doesn't even come close to the waterpipe.

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How come you dont have a gallery? That looks like a sweet setup that I would like to see more of.

 

[Unreal]

Cause I don't.

Check the parent directory for more pictures. I got pictures of everything if needed.

 

[race my talon]

mine fits good without denting the pipe..its touching the pipe but i didnt have to dent it, i have the l2r full garret

 

[Mike 99GSX]

I don't know why mine didn't fit like everyone else's here. If the housing is centered equally all the way around(and I'm sure it has to be) then there is no way mine could have fit. I have it rotated so that the flat part of the housing is pointed at the pipe(not one of the nubby projections) so I don't really know how I could have rotated it any differently to get more clearance. Again, I really don't care about having to dent the pipe but it didn't fit in my case. Anyway, I have the Greddy FMIC and I got a 2" LICP from RRE that fit fine. They normally make it 2.25 but made it 2" so that it maintains the same diameter from the compressor outlet to the FMIC. They sent extra long couplers to compensate and it fits perfect. Everything on the kit is installed now and the car runs great. I'm very impressed with the fit and finish of everything. The only other little thing I screwed up was that I pointed the valve on the Tial wastegate towards the passenger side because thats were my boost controller was located. When the hood closed, the heat shield touches it and burned it off so I got a huge boost spike the first time. If you just rotate it towards the drivers side then it clears because the hood shield dips back up at that point. The Tial also has a very different sound than my HKS did. Its hard to describe but it doesn't have the loud clackidy exhaust sound its more of a higher pitched kind of jet like sound. I'm going to putz around town for a while at low boost and break things in before I start cranking it up. So far so good. Thanks AGP!!!

 

[UncleBens]

I tore my old turbo off and mounted my new agp 50 trim up last night. Ran out of time so the install is not complete but it does look like I'll be using the stock 2g lower ic (nylon?) hose. So to answer my own question from above, it looks like any lower ic pipe shaped like the stock one will work. I'll probably just stay with 2" sinces the compressor outlet is 2" and my greddy fmic inlet piping is 2". I will probably upgrade that crappy flexible stock lower ic piping to RRE or something.

Also, I now know what you guys are talking about with the water pipes. Mine is clocked for stock ic piping (compressor outlet is facing the bottom of the car and comes out just enough so the lower ic pipe wont rub the passenger fan). When clocking the housing, there are some obvious humps/bumps in the compressor housing that you have to make sure the water pipes dont hit. When I had it clocked in the best position I could, the compressor housing still touches a water pipe that runs all the way accross the block. The housing is snug against the line but it appears that it will be fine like that. Unless the engine and turbo movement will cause problems???? What do you guys think?

If you want a little more play between the comp. housing and water line you could probably do something about it. Directly behind that water pipe is the old turbo coolant return line that is snug up against the water line that hits the housing. I was thinking you could remove the return line altogether and just plug it and will alow the waterline in front of it to move around and flex more.

 

[Mike 99GSX]

I'm pretty sure you can't plug the return line because it will block the flow of the entire system. You need to junction the 2 old turbo water lines together. Also, the water line your talking about that goes to the oil filter, I just removed it completely and replaced it with some 3/8 soft hose and rerouted it.

 

[UncleBens]

I got the impression that you could block the turbo water lines. I know of a guy with 1g that blocked his lines.

I also asked AGP if they provide something to plug the old coolant lines and the told me I COULD just connect them together but they didn't make it sound like I had to do that.

Could someone verify this, as that could get ugly if coolant isn't flowing right.

 

[Mike 99GSX]

Don't take this the wrong way but I hope your wrong because I went through alot of crap to find a way to make that banjo bolt low profile enough to junction them. It would have been a hell of a lot easier if I could have just plugged it!!

 

[Ben K]

Sorry Mike,

You could have just plugged it.