Best Plug Wires for my application

[AWD Lox]

Hey guys I am looking for some aftermarket plug wires. I was thinking NGK, but not sure what is the best for my motor and car. I have a SBR stage 1 block and freshly rebuilt head. NGK plugs, and I am not running anything more than stock boost right now. I was thinking of moving up into the 15/16 psi range soon and wasn't sure if that made a difference. Any thoughts would be appreciated. If you include a manufacturer please let me know where you got the wires from too. Thanks

Brett

 

[herostar]

I use Accel wires. They were inexpensive and have worked great for my project. I haven't heard any bad reviews on them. They're not the best most-fancy wires on the market, but they also cost alot less than most other wire sets, around $50 I think (or at least that's what I paid...) and perform very well. I have two buddies that use them, one on a 6-bolt 2g and one on a mostly stock car and they both like them too. The wires, along with a set of BPR7ES plugs, cured all my ignition problems.

 

[95blackGsTurbo]

Contrary to popular belief. MOST plugs wires are all the same. I have checked resistance in NGK, Stock, Taylor, MSD, and Magnecore wires. All virtually the same. Magnecore came out with the most consistant numbers through all 4 wires. All sets were new. The only difference in most wires is the amount of insulation they have to protect against crossfiring. Personally I have run new stock one's and I have run NGK and Magnecore 8.8mm ones. No difference in idle smoothness and performance. If you are looking for a good set once again you can't go wrong with stock but NGK or Magnecore are always a good bet. Don't think you need to get 10mm one's either. We run 8.8mm one's on our racecars with Magneto's on them and they put out 3x the voltage of a stock DSM coil. You can go overkill but your just paying more for the same results.

 

[chicagoavenger]

I use Accel got them off ebay for 40 shipped. Havent had any issues. I have tried the expensive ones and couldn't tell a difference

 

[DR.Spock]

magnecors or NGK's shoud be just right for your motor.

 

[staticbrainwash]

um. . . NGK's were stock wires. NGK's were also stock plugs.

just fyi on that one.

personally i use Ngk's i like em. and since they are direct stock replacement i trust them. if i do end up going with something bigger than those ill probably go with magnecore's or msd's.

 

[95blackGsTurbo]

FYI NGK wires were NOT OEM wires. Mitsubishi/Chrsyler had a company make there plug wires but it was not NGK. Can't think of it off hand. Belden I think but not 100% on it. And of course NGK plugs were used. It's a foriegn car. Foriegn cars take NGK, GM takes AC Delco, Ford takes Autolite and Chrysler takes Champion. Doesn't mean you can't use one of the other one's just mean's that they are the prefered one's. I have used the recommended AC, Autolite and Champion OE plugs for my car and when I hooked it up to our machine at school to test it there was no vary in engine idle or vibration as well as the higher rpm's.

 

[Eclipse99GST]

Blue NGK wires here too. Actually cleared up a misfire I had.

Erik

 

[AWD Lox]

I use Accel got them off ebay for 40 shipped. Havent had any issues. I have tried the expensive ones and couldn't tell a difference

Yeah I found some on an e-bay store for like 23 bucks plus shipping. I went ahead and got those. Thanks for all the replys guys. I checked out most of the parts places I normally go like dsmparts.com and SBR but none of those sites seemed to have anything that interested me.

 

[snox135]

Contrary to popular belief. MOST plugs wires are all the same. I have checked resistance in NGK, Stock, Taylor, MSD, and Magnecore wires. All virtually the same. Magnecore came out with the most consistant numbers through all 4 wires. All sets were new. The only difference in most wires is the amount of insulation they have to protect against crossfiring. Personally I have run new stock one's and I have run NGK and Magnecore 8.8mm ones. No difference in idle smoothness and performance. If you are looking for a good set once again you can't go wrong with stock but NGK or Magnecore are always a good bet. Don't think you need to get 10mm one's either. We run 8.8mm one's on our racecars with Magneto's on them and they put out 3x the voltage of a stock DSM coil. You can go overkill but your just paying more for the same results.

What did you use to test the resistance of the plug wires?

 

[Defiant]

What did you use to test the resistance of the plug wires?

He put one end in his ear and blew really, really hard on the other.

An ohmmeter. What else would you use? WTF

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=147476

 

[95blackGsTurbo]

I actually I had burrito's the night before so the other end went somewhere else hahaha. No, I used an ohm meter to check resistance between them. Easy way to check for open's and bad plug wires no the car.

 

[daren_p]

Contrary to popular belief. MOST plugs wires are all the same. I have checked resistance in NGK, Stock, Taylor, MSD, and Magnecore wires. All virtually the same. Magnecore came out with the most consistant numbers through all 4 wires. All sets were new. The only difference in most wires is the amount of insulation they have to protect against crossfiring. Personally I have run new stock one's and I have run NGK and Magnecore 8.8mm ones. No difference in idle smoothness and performance. If you are looking for a good set once again you can't go wrong with stock but NGK or Magnecore are always a good bet. Don't think you need to get 10mm one's either. We run 8.8mm one's on our racecars with Magneto's on them and they put out 3x the voltage of a stock DSM coil. You can go overkill but your just paying more for the same results.

Well I don't know about the wires that you tested but my accel wires had way less resistance then the stock wires. They advertise 150 ohms per foot and thats what they measured, the stock ones were over 1000 ohms (can't remember exactly as it was 2 years ago when I tested them). I've haven't had any problems with these wires yet & like was said they are fairly cheep compared to the magnecores. The only issue with them is they are slightly longer then the stock wires so there will be abit of a buldge just before the coil packs.

 

[snox135]

He put one end in his ear and blew really, really hard on the other.

An ohmmeter. What else would you use? WTF

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=147476

Well if you wanted accurate results you would use a Megaohm meter with at least 1,000 volts. The bigger ohm meter you use the more accurate results you will have.

Using a standard ohm meter is useless. Touch the tips of your ohm meter and see how big of a shock you get. Now do that with a Megaohm meter and let me know what you feel. Doing that will give you a real reason to say WTF

 

[sweet97]

NGK Blues. I had magnacores before these and the NGK's have a much stronger spark just from the way it jumps an inch to the valklve cover when I pull one with the motor running where the magnacore had to be placed against the cover for a spark to jump. Not very technical but they are now my wire of choice, $40. www.dsmotorsport.com

 

[Talon4ever]

Does anyone have experience with using Nology Hotwires. They have a built it capacitor and looking at the displays in the advertisements they seem to be really good. They are expensive though. like $150. I have been wanting to get some. Anybody have anything to say on them?

 

[gsx951]

Well if you wanted accurate results you would use a Megaohm meter with at least 1,000 volts. The bigger ohm meter you use the more accurate results you will have.

Using a standard ohm meter is useless. Touch the tips of your ohm meter and see how big of a shock you get. Now do that with a Megaohm meter and let me know what you feel. Doing that will give you a real reason to say WTF

Why would the DC resistance of the wire be of any interest?

 

[RamenPride]

Does anyone have experience with using Nology Hotwires. They have a built it capacitor and looking at the displays in the advertisements they seem to be really good. They are expensive though. like $150. I have been wanting to get some. Anybody have anything to say on them?

waste of money

 

[gsx951]

Does anyone have experience with using Nology Hotwires. They have a built it capacitor and looking at the displays in the advertisements they seem to be really good. They are expensive though. like $150. I have been wanting to get some. Anybody have anything to say on them?

Snake oil... www.magnecor.com Steve covers this pretty well in his tech pages. Read up, it's good stuff.

 

[snox135]

Why would the DC resistance of the wire be of any interest?

Because the less resistance of the wire the more voltage the plug will receive and in return will jump the gap easier. Which will allow you to run a bigger gap and cause less misfires.

 

[sweet97]

Because the less resistance of the wire the more voltage the plug will receive and in return will jump the gap easier. Which will allow you to run a bigger gap and cause less misfires.

gsx951 was questioning DC resistance because plugs aren't fired with direct current, heh? Mark

 

[snox135]

gsx951 was questioning DC resistance because plugs aren't fired with direct current, heh? Mark

I may be wrong but VDC is going into the coils and to my knowledge there is not a rectifier in the circuit to convert that to VAC. So the plugs are fired with VDC.

Even if they are fired with VAC, a megaohm meter is still the best way to check resistance of wires. We use them at work to check three phase AC motors and the wires that power them all the time. As it is the best way for us to check if wires or a motor is bad or not. Using a regular ohm meter does not give us accurate results when troubleshooting these problems.

 

[Ryan95tsiAWD]

I may be wrong but VDC is going into the coils and to my knowledge there is not a rectifier in the circuit to convert that to VAC. So the plugs are fired with VDC.

Even if they are fired with VAC, a megaohm meter is still the best way to check resistance of wires. We use them at work to check three phase AC motors and the wires that power them all the time. As it is the best way for us to check if wires or a motor is bad or not. Using a regular ohm meter does not give us accurate results when troubleshooting these problems.

granted megaohm may read "more precisely"...but if all you are doing is checking resistance then ANY meter (that reads 0 when touched together ) will do.

I have also tested NGK vs stock and there is a lot more resistance in the stock.

 

[snox135]

If you are testing and don't care if your results are accurate then why bother doing it in the first place. Can you use any ohm meter yes, but for high voltage applications a regular ohm meter is useless when testing resistance and possible shorts to ground.

I simply wanted to know what he used to test the wires. I personally don't give any test a lot of credit if there is no information on the conditions and test equipment used, that is why I asked him what he used.

 

[gsx951]

Because the less resistance of the wire the more voltage the plug will receive and in return will jump the gap easier. Which will allow you to run a bigger gap and cause less misfires.

The signal carried by a plug wire is an EM pluse and behaves like very high frequency AC.
This pluse travels on the surface of the conductor and not through it, so DC resistance has no bearing. The common term for this phenonmonon is skin effect. DC resistance is a red herring used by sales departments.