SBR 60-1 questions

[purplehazetsi]

Hey, i ran a search on this turbo, but didnt find much helpful info. Im looking to make 400awhp on my 91 AWD on pump gas, and about 450-480awhp on race gas. Im not looking to break the bank too too hard right now on the FP red or thr 3052... but i saw that someone on here made 500hp the the front wheels with the SBR 60-1... .Anyone have any info on this turbo? I just want a nice, powerful turbo for this spring/summer, than i plan to go with the 3065 next winter.Please let me know your opinions on the 60-1, i already know about FP's turbos and what not. thnaks

 

[paul s]

When comparing numbers make sure that you compare AWD numbers to AWD not FWD horsepower dyno results. I made 350 AW Hp(50trim) on a mustang dyno and trap 119.0mph(3300lb). Ona fwd dyno that number would be much higher..I think that you could get 400awhp on that turbo providing you have all the supporting mods and the car is tuned..I'm hoping to get 400+awhp on the gt13(60lb 60trim(pump gas))..Unless you are drag racing only I think that the 3065 is little too big for the street..

 

[purplehazetsi]

yeah, im not sure what turbo to run later in the next couple years, but i want something that is gonna be pretty nuts now, and not to be real expensive. I have heard people make well over 500 with this turbo, but its all hear say... Supporting mods are:

Buschur 3" Turbo back
SBR FMIC
HKS 272/272 cams
Crower Springs, Ti retainers
SS valves
Cometic Head Gasket
ARP everything
1G Rods, 1G pistons ( perfect compression)
Apexi S AFC2, GM Maf, Denso 660cc injectors
AFPR
ACT 2600/6 puck
HKS Cam Gears.

 

[silkcity100]

go with the 60-1 from pte and save the money for a new tranny when that 6 puck trashes your tranny

 

[purplehazetsi]

ill be running the TRE race tranny. And as for the puck clutch "breaking" trannies, i think thats the biggiest crock of shit ever. I know of 3 people currently running them on their daily driver cars and none of them are have the slightest bit of problems with the clutches. I have seen people blow up the street disks on many occasions.

 

[paul s]

You will love the TRE race tranny, I had one for a while now and its awsome..

 

[silkcity100]

go with the race tranny rebuild from dogbox tranny a lot better customer service and price,also i know of 4 people with a rebuild from then and no problems,2 friends got theres done by bm tranny and both their diff`s blew right threw the bell housing and messed up there flywheel, 1 other friend tried to get theres done by tre but said the were aholes and went with dogbox when i told him about them

 

[eyebrowski]

I think that you could get 400awhp on that turbo providing you have all the supporting mods and the car is tuned

I hope to god he can make more power than that on the 60-1 wheel, people have made over 500whp on it. Unless SBR's housing is complete garbage I would expect more out of it...

 

[purplehazetsi]

I hope to god he can make more power than that on the 60-1 wheel, people have made over 500whp on it. Unless SBR's housing is complete garbage I would expect more out of it...

thanks, ive heard the same things too, but i dont know if its a good turbo wise ( good spool, long lasting, ect)

 

[eyebrowski]

thanks, ive heard the same things too, but i dont know if its a good turbo wise ( good spool, long lasting, ect)

I use this wheel, although it's in a full garret set up, I love it. I get full boost just over 4000rpms on a 9:1 engine and a .63 housing.

 

[Lee'sGSX]

ill be running the TRE race tranny. And as for the puck clutch "breaking" trannies, i think thats the biggiest crock of shit ever. I know of 3 people currently running them on their daily driver cars and none of them are have the slightest bit of problems with the clutches. I have seen people blow up the street disks on many occasions.

The non sprung puck style clutches WILL strip the splines of your input shaft, on daily driver AWD street cars. Becareful!!!!

 

[ITSME4G63]

isnt the 60-1 non ball bearing?

 

[eclipse90gsxt]

The non sprung puck style clutches WILL strip the splines of your input shaft, on daily driver AWD street cars. Becareful!!!!

Thats why I used it daily driven for 1 1/2 years with no problems.

Act 2100 Pressure Plate
ACT Unsprung 6 puck

The Slow Boy Racing 60-1 isn't ball bearing..you are correct.

 

[Maglin]

ill be running the TRE race tranny. And as for the puck clutch "breaking" trannies, i think thats the biggiest crock of shit ever. I know of 3 people currently running them on their daily driver cars and none of them are have the slightest bit of problems with the clutches. I have seen people blow up the street disks on many occasions.

Ok. You think a puck disc breaking tranny's is crap? Well think about it. AWD and running a 60-1 you are talking maybe 400-425ish ft/lbs of torque maybe more with those 272's. I'm guessing since you are going with a puck you want to shoot of the line like a bat out of hell. The chatter alone will place a lot of loading and unloaded torque through the gears which can only take the abuse for so long. It might not break the tranny now but eventually it can be pretty damaging. Our trannys can't withstand the torque of a hard launch with a big turbo. The dogmission can and should be what you should consider if that is what you want to do.

And as for TRE being AHoles... I think not. It is hard to get them on the phone as it's only Jon and Ming working now but they do reply to their email same day usually. They just finished my tranny and they had to replace a lot of crap as I broke my intermedate shaft and 3-4 shift fork. I also had a Spool installed and the 2G Revised shift fork installed. W/shipping the cost was far less that what I had expected. Call up their sometime towards the evening and you might catch them. I talked to Jon for like almost an hour. He is full of experance of what does and doesn't work. And he can better tell you what will and will not destroy a tranny and why it does it.

As for a 60-1 I'm sure you would love the power it can make. It's a little laggy. If you want it to be fast spooling and are only shooting for 430 WHP then you might want to consider looking at getting a small AR turbine Houseing. Top end will suffer but spool will be faster and your sure to be happy as hell with it espessially since you already have cams.

 

[Batty200]

I use this wheel, although it's in a full garret set up, I love it. I get full boost just over 4000rpms on a 9:1 engine and a .63 housing.

What turbine wheel are you using? I have a T350 and a 63 bolton hosuing and I was expecting full boost about 5K.

Later

 

[gimpboy]

the sbr 60-1 is the same turbo my friend matt used to make 467 whp roughly tuned.. it can make 500whp w/o much sweat... also we sell the turbo from sbr. if anyone is interested in a price e-mail me [email protected] ... also i would highly recomend the tre tranny john really can build them

 

[eclipse90gsxt]

They are correct though, built or not a puck clutch is hell on the tranny. I have just never heard of the input shaft splines being tore/ripped off.

 

[ITSME4G63]

Thats why I used it daily driven for 1 1/2 years with no problems.

Act 2100 Pressure Plate
ACT Unsprung 6 puck

The Slow Boy Racing 60-1 isn't ball bearing..you are correct.

wouldnt it be better to run a ball bearing turbo for obvious reasons?

 

[Maglin]

He is looking to save money. Not spend 2x as much on a turbo that spools 200-300 RPM sooner.

 

[Coup D E'Tat]

thanks, ive heard the same things too, but i dont know if its a good turbo wise ( good spool, long lasting, ect)

My friend's went in a few months, and he's not an idiot, at driving, tuning, whatever excuse anyone can think of.

 

[eclipse90gsxt]

wouldnt it be better to run a ball bearing turbo for obvious reasons?

Well for a turbo of that size it would be but as said above ball bearing cost is quite higher than a regular bushing turbo.

 

[herostar]

I've got an SBR G60-1 on my 2.3L motor. I absolutely love it. I got the internal gate and the 90* elbow welded on too. It works awesome. I've been running it every day since September with no problems. On my car w/ the stock 2g head, intake manifold, unported ex. manifold and unported o2 housing I was getting 20 psi by 3500rpm in 3rd gear. It pulls so solid to 7500 ;rpm (haven't taken it past there... no need...). Guessing from cars I have raced and other cars with similar setups I'd say I am making somewhere around 415-440 whp on pump gas right now.

 

[ITSME4G63]

Well for a turbo of that size it would be but as said above ball bearing cost is quite higher than a regular bushing turbo.

Wouldnt an agp rs52 be a better alternative to the 60-1?

 

[herostar]

Wouldnt an agp rs52 be a better alternative to the 60-1?

The RS52 uses a 60 trim compressor wheel and flows 52 lb/min.
The RS60 uses a 60-1 compressor wheel and flows 60 lb/min.

They are two completely turbos. The RS52 could be a better alternative, but that would be for a different application. They two turbos aren't even close to the same thing.