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09-17-2008, 05:54 PM
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Welding the popups to the hood
So, i had this crazy idea to get rid of the popups on the 1g and retrofit a light into the regular slim headlight. I have a picture sorda of what i mean.
So basically, you have a one piece hood, no popups, and a light system with two head lights, almost like a daytime running light. The highbeams will go where the blank is in the slim headlight, and the regualr one will stay in the same spot. This is similar to the S13 conversion, but def. not the same. SO DONT MERGE IT!! Anybody think i can do it? And any advice to retrofitting the headlights? Thanks
BTW, i photoshopped that picture, just incase you are wondering.
James 
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09-17-2008, 06:45 PM
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Looks dope. I assume some grinding and paint work to the hood are inevitable?
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Yea, me and my uncle expect that. He can weld decently and i have the ideas. HAHA. I think it will look sick. I honestly think better than the S13 conversion.
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looks awesome, thats how they should have came stock. Never seen that before.
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 yea. The hardest part about the whole thing will be retrofitting the headlights. Im not sure how it will turn out, but we will get it done. I do work son!
James 
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09-17-2008, 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by HIGHPSI4
That might look good if you can get some head lights to work.
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Any ideas. Supposedly you can buy the canisters that the bulbs would normally sit in. The thing with the 1g's though is the reflector up front on the outer most side on the front headlights where the retrofitted ones would sit. I dont know how it will bend the light. I guess i will just have to play around with it until it works.
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Wow that picture makes me want a 1GA.
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Its a beautiful car that was made better with my photoshopping. Can you guess where i also photoshopped the car? Its very very sneaky. I plan to go with this color scheme after chopping this car.
James 
Last edited by Defiant; 09-18-2008 at 05:17 AM.
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09-17-2008, 06:58 PM
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Thats been done by a few people actually. Tho none of them used the stock hood and cover. They had a fiberglass hood and made custom molds of the covers and fiberglassed them together. Headlights were removed and driving lights were placed behind the lenses. Only thing was light output sucked really bad.
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09-17-2008, 07:07 PM
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Thats been done by a few people actually. Tho none of them used the stock hood and cover. They had a fiberglass hood and made custom molds of the covers and fiberglassed them together. Headlights were removed and driving lights were placed behind the lenses. Only thing was light output sucked really bad.
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Well, i guess its similar when people do the lazy eyes and the light shines through the headlight and a little over it. And it doesnt look too too bad.
James 
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09-17-2008, 10:18 PM
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Couldnt you maybe toy around with a couple differant styles of fog light for the housings. Some of them are made for tight areas. You could change out the bulbs to something with more power. Then you would have to mess with the housings to get the light to go where you want it. Or you could separate the housing that holds the signals and running lights and have the back side chromed so it reflects light towards the front when installed. Just throwing out some ideas. It would look much beter with the hood molded to the popups.
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09-17-2008, 10:48 PM
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Can you put these pictures side by side, like before and after photoshopped pictures, please
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09-18-2008, 07:06 AM
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Couldnt you maybe toy around with a couple differant styles of fog light for the housings. Some of them are made for tight areas. You could change out the bulbs to something with more power. Then you would have to mess with the housings to get the light to go where you want it. Or you could separate the housing that holds the signals and running lights and have the back side chromed so it reflects light towards the front when installed. Just throwing out some ideas. It would look much beter with the hood molded to the popups.
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Good ideas. What do you mean the hood molded to the popups? YOu mean like what i did in the pics.?
James 
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09-18-2008, 08:34 AM
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Good ideas. What do you mean the hood molded to the popups? YOu mean like what i did in the pics.?
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Ya I was talking about what you photoshopped in the pics.
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09-18-2008, 08:48 AM
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Its a beautiful car that was made better with my photoshopping. Can you guess where i also photoshopped the car? Its very very sneaky. I plan to go with this color scheme after chopping this car.
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The FMIC?
Shep did something similar this year a few years ago. He attached the headlight covers to the hood so that they would lift with the hood, but he didn't hide the outside seem. With the hood closed, it still looked OE. I plan to do this with my 1G as well.
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09-18-2008, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by 99gst_racer
The FMIC?
Shep did something similar this year a few years ago. He attached the headlight covers to the hood so that they would lift with the hood, but he didn't hide the outside seem. With the hood closed, it still looked OE. I plan to do this with my 1G as well.
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Nope. The side markers for the left turn signal and the glass for the driver window i tinted.
Very hard to tell unless you see my blown up picture, then its noticeable. I cant wait til i start this.
James 
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10-08-2008, 05:18 PM
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Check these pictures, they basically have the light set up you're looking for. Don't remember where I got the pictures but I assume they are from a member here.
These pictures gave me the idea to do the S13 conversion on my 1G. You could maybe follow this setup and fabricate a custom cover for the lights you put in.
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10-08-2008, 07:33 PM
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From: Waukesha, Wisconsin
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Just take a 92 hood.
Remove the tops off the pop ups, and voila.
Sounds kinda simple!
I wish I had pop ups.
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91 Galant VR4 "Untitled"
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10-08-2008, 08:59 PM
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^That won't work the body lines up front are different.
Also i am in the air of doing this, because i do not have pop-ups in my 91 i have piaa driving lights and while they are good they are still not a great headlight.
SO basically its between this and a 92 front end conversion.
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10-08-2008, 10:22 PM
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THats VERY unique!
I love that.
Makes me want pop ups :-/
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10-08-2008, 11:49 PM
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I have been thinking about this for a while now. I thinking about getting two sets of the Hella Micro D.E lights and making a setup to mount them inside the exsisting clear lens. These lights also come in HID so it would be nice to make something work.
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10-09-2008, 12:11 AM
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Yes that's what I was thinking make an H.I.D. conversion in the existing slim light. Then cut the top of the pop up out...take the rest of the pop up out... and weld the top to the hood... then you have your slim light, and more room in the engine bay. Because the pop ups take space away from the engine bay right?? I own a 92 so I don't know if it does take away space, but they look freakin sweet. Eventually I'll do a 1ga conversion and make the slim lights...So I would like to know how this conversion would work...
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10-09-2008, 01:31 AM
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From: glorious Galt, California
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What was the Olds that had the little thin headlights in the eighties? I think they may have used them on a Pontiac, too.
But not me. I'm afraid of the things that live in the dark.
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10-09-2008, 03:41 AM
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I had this done to my car also about 5 years ago. Car was black and looked really good, but it was hard to see. The lighting really sucked. I had hids mounted where the stock turn signals go on. Other words i had no turn signals. lol
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10-09-2008, 07:44 AM
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I have this done on my car and let me tell you it is no walk in the park. But it is do-able. I also have the factory metal hood. If you do not have any welding skills I suggest you find someone who does. Where you are going to need to weld is only sheet metal and is very warp friendly. Also you must be pretty good at body work to get it smooth and flat again. Also do not make the same mistake I did, use a really good sealer primer so your body work does not bleed thru the paint (it did on my white car). For the lights I fab'd my own sheet metal brackets that mount where the front bumper (crash beam) bolts on and also where the old pop-ups used to reside. They are made to accomodate two 50mm Hella projectors (1 low-beam & 1 high-beam per side). I have many pics but as you can tell by my post count and join date I do not post much and have no idea how to post pics. There is a single pic of my car floating around in the Tri-state forum from a pool hall meet in hamilton if you do a lil searching. Any other questions feel free to fire away. If anyone can help with the pics that would be great.
Jeff
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10-09-2008, 07:45 AM
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^That is my main concern as that is how i drive around now and it sucks, any car that comes behind me creates some kind of eclipse and its like my lights aren't even on, all i can see is a shadow of my car.
Right now the '92 front end conversion is looking more doable. I already have 2 sets of Piaa lights, the one in the car and another better set on the shelf but its getting spendy figuring this out.
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10-09-2008, 08:38 AM
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Ive seen this before and it looks good, but I would seriously just stick with the pop-ups and use the money for something a little more rewarding.
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