Is it worth to TURBO my 98 RS 420a?

[VOTBLINDUB]

I was thinking if i should plan a turbo for my car and start saving. Is it worth it? Are the 420a engines okay for it? Obviously, fuel system, exhaust, internals all that will be upgraded to take the power and supply enough fuel and such. Transmission will obvioulsy need work. I am not huge on racing, i'd like some more horse power available in it. I am looking to be in the range of 220-250, not more. I wont race it at the track, it's a daily driver, i'd only go once just to see what it can do, so i have numbers to give if anybody asks. I dont care that the honda Si next to me can beat me. Not that important. I have an automatic tranny(yes yes, i know), if i turn the overdrive off, and put it in lower gears it will shift past 6K rpm, which is pretty long gearing. I have found 3 kits that seem to work for my car, the Hahn, turbonetics and a greddy kit. Does anybody have their 420a turbo'd? I dont really plan to do the 4g63 swap. please dont say "just get a gst or gsx", i've heard that enough, i cant. i cannot afford it or the insurance on it. I'm not getting a 1G, i dont like how they look, or i'd have had a gsx already and this post wouldnt be here. Can anybody advise me with this turbo business?

 

[DSMSpyder99]

the k20a is not a bad motor it just doesnt compare to the 4G63. I dont know that much about turbos on K20a but i do know most eclipse get Hahn or Star. Also there is a site called 2Gnt.com they can further your knowledge of turbo k20a. IMHO if a civic can turbo there car why cant you

 

[Colossus]

You mean 420A . I suppose it depends on what you're looking for in the car speed wise. siueclipse does over 300whp with a lot of mods and a LOT of money put into his 420A. With half that, maybe a quarter of the amount of money he's spent, a 4g63 could produce over 300whp easily. That applies to both the GSX and the GST. A turbo RS is a completly different motor, and you won't get any turbo support since it's not from the factory. Only boards and people who know their DSMs like the people here could help you with problems. Hahn has the fastest 420A car, and it can do 11's in the 1/4. The fastest DSM does 8.9. Keep in mind, that 11 in the 1/4 was made with a LOT of money in mind. Cheaper to produce power on the 4g63, but you'll get respect for being more unique with a turboed 420A, you'll just not be able to produce as much power.

 

[DSMWillyb]

Originally posted by VOTBLINDUB
I dont really plan to do the 4g63 swap. please dont say "just get a gst or gsx", i've heard that enough, i cant. i cannot afford it or the insurance on it. I'm not getting a 1G, i dont like how they look, or i'd have had a gsx already and this post wouldnt be here

Sounds like you've already answered your own question to wether or not you should turbo your car. But it will be harder to make 'good' power with that motor, than a 4G63 - just food for thought. If you can't afford a 2G GSX/GST & and you ruled out a 1G, have you considered any other vehicles - I don't know what your looking for, but you might want to consider other vehilces - that are already turbo'd and you could afford. I'm not trying to get you away from DSM's - just throwing out another option for ya...

 

[98RedGs]

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=28
Correct Forum


http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=33872
Good vs Bad at turboing your car.

Read.

*Moved to N/T Conversion Section*

 

[ivanr4g63]

It is worth it, if that's what you want, there are quite a few people here who have turbo'd their 420a... and yes it does works real good, I don't know for sure how much total HP you end up with, but with supporting mods you can make some respectable power with stock internals...

The boost you run also works diferent cause you have bigger compression ratio than turbo cars, that means that little boost can yield to some significant power, try getting your headgasket replace at least before installing the turbo in that 420a. a FMIC is some nice option too, and tune as much as you can...

 

[VOTBLINDUB]

thanks for the replies i actually did replace the headgasket not long ago, so that's one tiny problem out of the way, heh-heh, i'll check out what else is out there, if i can find some 420a's turbo'd see what they have, how it works and whatnot.

 

[apgeclipsegsx]

supporting mods and a small nitrous kit and then do the rest of the money into the fiberglass mods that u wanted to do to your car

 

[dsmrunnah95]

Originally posted by Colossus
You mean 420A . I suppose it depends on what you're looking for in the car speed wise. siueclipse does over 300whp with a lot of mods and a LOT of money put into his 420A. With half that, maybe a quarter of the amount of money he's spent, a 4g63 could produce over 300whp easily. That applies to both the GSX and the GST. A turbo RS is a completly different motor, and you won't get any turbo support since it's not from the factory. Only boards and people who know their DSMs like the people here could help you with problems. Hahn has the fastest 420A car, and it can do 11's in the 1/4. The fastest DSM does 8.9. Keep in mind, that 11 in the 1/4 was made with a LOT of money in mind. Cheaper to produce power on the 4g63, but you'll get respect for being more unique with a turboed 420A, you'll just not be able to produce as much power.

Actually, now HRC's car has ran a 10.87 on small slicks (7" i believe). There are only a hand full of gst's quicker than that... maybe 7 tops. And I believe there is a faster dsm out there than sheperd but it's rwd on 30" slicks.

A turbo 420a is nice, a little more expensive but when you consider the intial cost of the same year gs-t, insurance, etc etc... then it's about the same. I'd love to see someone have a 2.4L with Hahn's t66-25g.

As long as you do it right and dont go half-assed, then it could be very rewarding.