such a dilemma....turbo....

[ftblplyr46]

ok guys, im stuck between a rock and a hard place, a very hard place. my dilemma right now is trying to decide if i want to turbo or not?!? my plans, either route i take, is to get another 420A and rebuild it, and then, if i am going to turbo, buy all my internals and things i need, and then, eventually, the turbo kit itself. the thing with the turbo kit is, money. and this is hard to come by for me, being in college, and not working very often due to a sh*tty job(perhaps i need a new 1 ) anywayz, ive heard people making their own turbo kits for around $1500, if anyone knows anything bout this, i would love to hear it, and if they are even worthing doing, as in are they reliable? thanks

 

[ftblplyr46]

24 views and no replies? man, i must be in a really hard place

 

[demonchild]

There's no replies, because this question has never ever been asked before and all the people in this forum have no idea what to tell you. By the way, you did post in the N/T conversion forum, maybe there's an answer to your question there. Ok, I'll give you the short and sweet answer that 98% of the people on this site and in DSM's around the world will give you. Turboing your non turbo is incredibly expensive and there's no way around it (unless you have your own shop)...You do!! fantastic, then you're set to go. If you want a turbo, sell your N/T and buy a Turbo car for less money than it will cost you build a motor. Ok...now you got a reply.

 

[siueclipse]

There's no replies, because this question has never ever been asked before and all the people in this forum have no idea what to tell you. By the way, you did post in the N/T conversion forum, maybe there's an answer to your question there. Ok, I'll give you the short and sweet answer that 98% of the people on this site and in DSM's around the world will give you. Turboing your non turbo is incredibly expensive and there's no way around it (unless you have your own shop)...You do!! fantastic, then you're set to go. If you want a turbo, sell your N/T and buy a Turbo car for less money than it will cost you build a motor. Ok...now you got a reply.

typical response from a 4g63 guy


look.. our cars may be expensive to turbo, but you paid that when you bought your gsx, we didn't. furthermore, we immediatly put on better parts than what youre gsx come with.

back on topic.. hey man, come over to www.2gnt.com and ask this question. normally youll get typical responses like the one above from this place.

yes you can put together a turbo kit for around $1500 bux. it wont be the best one or use the best parts but you can do it.

few things you will need
- walbro 255 intank fuel pump
- turbo w/wo wastegate (depends on turbo)
- turbo exhaust manifold
- bov
- intercooler and piping
- fuel cut defensor like a missing link
- some gauges
- Vortech SFMU
- bunch of fuel lines and fittings

im sure there is more, but im hungover today so this is all you get.

 

[siueclipse]

There's no replies, because this question has never ever been asked before and all the people in this forum have no idea what to tell you.

this really shows what you know. this question has been asked many many many many times. and actually the reason why there aren't many replies with so many views is because this question has been asked so many times that searching for the answer would provide great results.

 

[CrazyClipse]

24 views and no replies? man, i must be in a really hard place

Like siue said, 2gnt.com is a better place to ask such a question. just search first and see if you can educate yourself then if you have remaining questions, ask.

 

[DSM-ZERO]

Alot of 4g63 people that buy a GS-t or GS-X, Will spend just as much as someone with a N/T 420a who is trying to turbo there car. The 4g63 guy might spend more in upgrades or the same as a 420a.

So getting a 4g63 turbo will not help you BUT it will be a better platform to work on because of the strong aftermarket for it.

 

[2fast420a]

Alot of 4g63 people that buy a GS-t or GS-X, Will spend just as much as someone with a N/T 420a who is trying to turbo there car. The 4g63 guy might spend more in upgrades or the same as a 420a.

So getting a 4g63 turbo will not help you BUT it will be a better platform to work on because of the strong aftermarket for it.

That information is incorrect. I've worked with both and know so from first hand experience. The bottom line is that the 4G63 is going to be cheaper to upgrade but like siueclipse said the car is cheaper to buy. It is in fact cheaper to make more hp with a 4G63 than it is to make it with a 420a considering for starters that you don't even need to upgrade the engine internals until you clear 400hp.

I'm not saying one is better than the other because I'm not going to fuel that debate but the 420a is more expensive to modify especially if your going for over 300hp.

 

[siueclipse]

another factor you need to consider is that the 420a is getting better and better support for performance these days.

lets say the gs is 6 grand less than the gsx..

1500 - rebuild kit
5000 - HRC turbo kit with awsome fuel system

you have a 300whp car easy. now granted you might not have all the gauges, wideband.. etc.. but it can be done. if you built your own turbo kit and fuel system you could do it for 2500 easy and use the other 2500 for other car stuff.

its not as hard as you think to make the 420a perform.

i wish i knew what i know now about my car back when i ffirst started modifying it.

 

[2fast420a]

another factor you need to consider is that the 420a is getting better and better support for performance these days.

lets say the gs is 6 grand less than the gsx..

1500 - rebuild kit
5000 - HRC turbo kit with awsome fuel system

you have a 300whp car easy. now granted you might not have all the gauges, wideband.. etc.. but it can be done. if you built your own turbo kit and fuel system you could do it for 2500 easy and use the other 2500 for other car stuff.

its not as hard as you think to make the 420a perform.

i wish i knew what i know now about my car back when i ffirst started modifying it.

Don't forget though that there is machine work and labor involved with the motor rebuild. A lot of the guys on here doing the 420a or even a 4G63 build up don't know how to rebuild a motor on thier own.

 

[siueclipse]

Don't forget though that there is machine work and labor involved with the motor rebuild. A lot of the guys on here doing the 420a or even a 4G63 build up don't know how to rebuild a motor on thier own.

true, however that still isn't all that expensive.

either way i think my point stands

 

[ftblplyr46]

true, however that still isn't all that expensive.

either way i think my point stands

thanks for the info, and i have a mechanic who cuts me a lot of deals. anywayz, yea, shouldve searched, didnt think to :thumbdown anywayz, i do want to turbo, and im thinkin of maybe goin custom, gonna look into it some more, so maybe i can save a lil more money ill let everyone know how it goes, and i will have to check that site out, havent gotten the chance to, but heard bout it