Womp a GS-T?

[GSGoinFast]

Is it possible to beat a 2g GS-T without going turbo? and if so does it cost a whole lot? Just trying to make her fast! And i dont want to sell her for a 1g, want to keep her!

 

[heff]

yes, and yes . Although it's actually cheaper to make big Hp by going with a turbo kit. go to Hahn racecrafts website to get info on turbo kits, go to howellautomotive to get info on going all motor.

Heff

 

[OneFastEclipse]

It would take quite a bit of bolt ons to beat a GST NA. Honest to God, the cheapest and easiest way to do it is just strap on some N20 and let the juice flow. Other than that if you put Intake, Throttle body, ported intake manifold, Upgraded cams, header, catback, test pipe, UDP, you should be able to hang with one pretty good maybe slip past him from a stop, your gonna have trouble with him from a roll though. Best bet would be to catch a GSX from a roll since they lose so much through the drivetrain and are heavy as hell. This is assuming you have a manual, if your auto forget it. If they have any basic mods at all, forget it.

 

[top_end95]

Originally posted by GSGoinFast
Is it possible to beat a 2g GS-T without going turbo? and if so does it cost a whole lot? Just trying to make her fast! And i dont want to sell her for a 1g, want to keep her!

1)Yes and No. With a 75 shot and basic bolt-ons you should be able to hang with a STOCK GST. If he/she is a crappy driver, you should have it.
If mildly modded, forget about it.

2)Yes and No. Nitrous is the cheapest way to add power BUT if your engine isn't up to par or it isn't used/installed right, you can say bye-bye to your 420a and rebuilding isn't cheap.

 

[GSGoinFast]

yes i have manual... wouldnt get an auto! but i already have intake and cat-back and im getting the throttle body soon. hopefully in the next month ill get the header too. and eventually a new high flow cat. would this be enough to stick with them or even beat them?

 

[OneFastEclipse]

You need everything I mention to start trying it. That leaves you with Cams, UDP, and Ported Intake mani. In my opinion the most beneficial of the 420a. Those 3 together could open upwards of 25 hp.

 

[top_end95]

GSGoinFAst, if you're planning on doing all that, you might as well save up and get a Stage 1 turbo kit.

The ending cost will be about the same.

 

[GSGoinFast]

But how much power can i get from a stage 1 with stock internals? do i have to run low psi? how much hp boost would that give me?

 

[OneFastEclipse]

Stage one you will be running 5-6psi which is probably around 170whp. Equal to a stock GST. If you put your money down on that and the bolt ons I told you (other than the header of course) you would be in pretty good shape. Plan on spending close to 3 grand for the whole damn thing though. Pretty hefty price tag for 14's I would say.

 

[big green]

With a 75 shot you will kill a stock GS-T.

Do not waste money on a header, you only get a 1-2 hp gain, get a udp or cat back.

 

[Eclipse96Ryder]

no way will you beat a GST without going turbo unless you dump about 6g's into the engine. sorry but they can run a 15 flat completely stock, and the fastest non turbo to date, WITH A SLIP, is a 14.6 and he has a completely built engine....and thats a ton of money. with a mbc and exhaust a GST could pull lower then that. its not worth it, do like i did, buy a 1g awd for like 2500, and keep your 2gnt whenever the 1gawd breaks.

just for the record...


my non turbo had aem cai, apexi exhaust, hi flo cat, 2.5" downpipe, SRD 4-1 header, afx underdrive pulley, fidanza flywheel, and a ported throttle body, and my best run was a 15.6 and i even had BS called on me for that time.

 

[GSGoinFast]

theres a non turbo spyder that ran a 14.3 quarter. i really want to go turbo, but the problem is convincing my dad to let me put one in, and to let me spend that much money. he keeps telling me its not worth putting $2,000 in a car thats only worth $10,000. plus if any thing starts to break down, i dont think he will pay for it, and he will blame it on the turbo. and i need him paying for maintenece, cause i just had $1,000 of work dont to it, just routine stuff, that i couldnt have paid for by myself. and i have to save up for the turbo too. so i guess i was just pretty much wondering if there were cheap mods, like intake and stuff, that would allow me to keep up with a GS-T, before i went turbo.

 

[Zontore]

nitous is cheap

 

[Eclipse96Ryder]

no cheap mods will let u keep up with a gst...unless u do nitrous...but u could prob only go with a 50 shot on stock internals and other stuff. that would give u a good 190 at the crank. gst's are 210 at the crank, then throw on some bolt on...intake, header, downpipe, hi flo cat, exhaust, underdrive pulley....and u will be right with one if you spray

 

[top_end95]

Originally posted by Eclipse96Ryder
no cheap mods will let u keep up with a gst...unless u do nitrous...but u could prob only go with a 50 shot on stock internals and other stuff. that would give u a good 190 at the crank. gst's are 210 at the crank, then throw on some bolt on...intake, header, downpipe, hi flo cat, exhaust, underdrive pulley....and u will be right with one if you spray

On any shot, its not always a TRUE 50, 60, 70, ect. its actually a lower number to the wheels. So have that in mind.

One last thing, since when do the 420As have downpipes
(Think before you type, you might misinform some of the newer members)

 

[GSGoinFast]

420a's do have downpipes, its the pipe between the header and the cat. well im almost positive thats what it is. will the spray destroy my engine like ive heard it will, or is it safe when used correctly and not that often?

 

[big green]

You CAN run a 75 shot on the 420A with no other mods, on a stock fuel system. I'm running a 75 shot right now and I have no engine mods. BUT 75 shot is the max the 420A can safely run.

A close to stock GS-T will be a easy kill.

 

[builtgseclipse]

People here talk a lot, a lot of them have some really good advice, and some of them don’t. Alot of them talk off of assumption. I don’t…
: Stage 3 ported head, with upgraded valve springs, and 3 angle valve job, and milled deck, Stage 2 crower cams, Ported Intake Manifold ,Fidanza Adjustable cam gears, UD Crank Pulley, Iceman CAI, AC Header(from the UK), Sneekypete 35 shot NOS, APEXi Exhaust, OBX Fuel rail with 310 injectors, NGK iridium plugs with bosh wires, 2100 pound clutch Rebuilt bottom end .020 over with new pistons...
with all my mods I beat a AUTO GSX, with boost controller set at 14 psi, exhaust, intake, blow off, and that’s it. I beat him with a messed up transmission so I don’t know, I barely beat him, I think I would beat him by more if I could have launched or my tranny just worked how it’s supposed to. I hit low 15’s. It’s SLOW. But that’s about as fast as you’re going to get with a N/A eclipse and I spent around 2500 getting all those parts. But I kept in mind turbo… All my mods will help me with turbo so I should be hitting 300 whp at 8-11 psi with a custom made stage 2 kit. Don’t plan to be beating all kinds of cars on the street with a built N/A eclipse n/a eclipse will still be slow…I had the same problem with my dad about turbo. But you gata find the right angle to present him with. See my dad knows shit about cars, so I just fed him some bull shit that its not a turbo for all power, the turbo will be *HELPING* my engine by feeding it *JUST* the *RIGHT* amount of air it needs at all times, the turbo will be controlled by the computer to feed it air and it will be kept at really low boost levels at all times…And he’s like wow sounds like a good idea. He would never let me touch turbo before now he’s will to help me get it. You just have to make it to hard for them to understand and twist the truth to them..…anywyas good luck

 

[EclipseAtLSU]

I raced a friend of mine in his 95 talon tsi (same thing as a GS-T) and his is completely stock.

We launched, he bogged, and i took off quick....i had about a car or so once the gears kicked in, and then he caught up to my mirrors, and after that (with his turbo spooling very nicely) he NEVER pulled ahead...and to be quite honest his shifts arent so bad...the launch killed him, but yea, i took him. wasnt a fully legit race, cuz like i said, he bogged, etc, but hey, a race is a race

 

[DSMTommy]

I raced a GS running a 100 shot, intake, exhaust and chip. My car was still stock except for a filter and some heavy ass chrome rims and I pulled about 2 cars on him. Your gonna need some mods, a simple spray won't do it. not even a 100 shot

 

[builtgseclipse]

No offensive, but you didn’t race any n/t with a 100 shot. He would blow up on the second spray…and no, dude sorry think again, simple math… a turbo eclipse is about 180-190 to the wheels (210 CHP). An n/t is about 120 to the wheels (140 CHP), just off the spray alone he would beat you by a car or two, and the chip helps a lot... You were lied to or somthen cuz that just not true even if he could pray a 100 shot.

Ill race you with my 50 shot =)

 

[big green]

Originally posted by DSMTommy
I raced a GS running a 100 shot, intake, exhaust and chip. My car was still stock except for a filter and some heavy ass chrome rims and I pulled about 2 cars on him. Your gonna need some mods, a simple spray won't do it. not even a 100 shot

My BS meter is going off the charts.

 

[disturbed]

Originally posted by DSMTommy
I raced a GS running a 100 shot, intake, exhaust and chip. My car was still stock except for a filter and some heavy ass chrome rims and I pulled about 2 cars on him. Your gonna need some mods, a simple spray won't do it. not even a 100 shot

Oh yea and loose the rims its not a caddy man no one wants to see those assisins on there :thumbdown

 

[DSMTommy]

As for blowing it up, yea he did, on his fourth spray. Bring your 50 shot, You guys put to much into the math. No car ever runs what it states, unless in perfect running condition. As far as a race, learn before you speak. And as far as the rims, what jealous that you can't afford them

 

[builtgseclipse]

to funny