Found 4-2-1 headers. Need Input

[IIv SHaDoW vII]

I found this on ebay today. Needless to say I'm excited because I have never found 4-2-1 headers for the 420a that are worth buying. What do you guys think of these? Anyone that possibly has these? Quality? Strength?..

eBay Motors: 95-97 98 99 MIT ECLIPSE 2.0L STAINLESS HEADER+TEST PIPE (item 320315061678 end time Nov-04-08 13:03:27 PST)

 

[loser_635]

those actually look nice, I wouldnt mind switching them out for teh 4-1 I have now.

as for teh test pipe, im pretty sure that would not work on our exhaust cause, on my catback atleast its only 2 bolts not 3

 

[IIv SHaDoW vII]

I emailed them asking to confirm that the header+items are actually 4-2-1. I'm sure the pic is to advertise so there's a good chance the headers they are actually selling for our cars are 4-1 just like every other ebay seller claiming to sell 4-2-1. I will post a reply when I found out from these guys if they are indeed 4-2-1, or another 4-1 ripoff. I asked for pics of the actual product I would be getting. Its a long shot even getting a reply, but hopefully they do.

Sadly, I think its another 4-1 with the wrong picture. If you look at their other Eclipse header auction it shows a 4-1 header but is labeled 4-2-1 and the picture shows the correct bolt patterns for our exhaust. I still have an email going back and forth asking them for more detailed information. I hope this guy responds with some good news.

 

[bullettdsm]

Kudos to the OP for checking into this instead of just buying it. I have been mentioning this since I had to go through it many (it seems) years ago. Most of the 4-2-1's are actually 4-1 when the finally arrive at your door.
MB

 

[IIv SHaDoW vII]

No updates, here is the bullshit responses I got.

Dear ap1ap2,
I have been looking for a 4-2-1 header for a year now and came across your product. Can you please verify that this header is indeed 4-2-1. If you could send me some pics of the actual product I'd be getting for my car (Eclipse 95-99 Non turbo) that would be great. Thanks
- topcitycustomz

Dear topcitycustomz,
Yes. This is a 4-2-1 setup as you seen from the image provided. Best regards.
- ap1ap2

Dear ap1ap2,
Ok, my other concern is in your other auction for an eclipse header (the one that includes a muffler) shows a 4-1 designed header but is labeled 4-2-1. Why is that? Also, the header on this auction has 3 bolts from the testpipe back. I have changed my exhaust before and I know there should only be 2 bolts that are supposed to connect from that test pipe to the rest of the exhaust. So is this just a display model of a 4-2-1 and I will receive the right one to fit my car? And will it for sure be 4-2-1?.. Sorry for my skeptical questions, but I have tried to find 4-2-1 headers for a while and have had no luck.
- topcitycustomz

Dear topcitycustomz,
Do you know this header it's a 2 pieces design. The header conects to a 2-1 pipe.
- ap1ap2

Dear ap1ap2,
Yes, I understand how it connects.. It goes from header to the 2-1 pipe. The 2-1 pipe goes to the test pipe which has 3 bolts on both sides. The testpipe end going to the rest of the exhaust will not bolt up to the stock exhaust pipe right there. That was what I was saying. So does it come with another piece or something? As is, that bolt pattern will not fit stock exhaust.
Dont get me wrong here, I am interested in this product and want to buy it. But I need to make sure its what I want and will fit right.
- topcitycustomz

No more responses.. My most recent message was sent yesterday around 2pm.

 

[Locke]

The picture in the ad is not for a 420a. Look at the header -> head flange.

 

[Hideki]

I found this header while browsing eBay, apparently DC makes a 4-2-1 for your cars I'll have to admit I don't think I've seen anything but 4-1's for the 420's
DC Sports 4-2-1

 

[Diamondrev]

yea thats what it looks like, my friend has one on his 420a... but they are like 350 dollars..

 

[IIv SHaDoW vII]

Yeh Hideki, the main concern is price.. If I could afford DCs I would have had them a long time ago. I dont know why manufacturers of the 4-1s cant make 4-2-1s for us, Its more parts but I wouldnt mind paying 100 for a nice 4-2-1 header seeing that all the 4-1s sell for like 50 on ebay. Pacesetter also makes a 4-2-1, but hearing from the grapevine, its shitty and will crack over time.