02 sensor for a turbo to a n/t

[viperlp01]

Is it possible and will it work to get a 02 sensor from a 95 gsx and put it on my 96 n/t. Is it different or will it work?

 

[dr1665]

/scratches head at mod.

No. GSX = Mitsubishi. GS = Dodge. Only way to know for sure is to compare part numbers for each.

 

[Focker420]

Ok so i got a question for the n/t going turbo when i put the turbo on a and am hooking up the 02 sensors i have a wideband 02 aswell so, I weld the bung on the down pipe and put the wideband 02 there but the stock 02? Do i just weld a bung close the wide band and put it there or what. What do i do with the stock 02?

Ty

 

[4UH8ERS]

keep you stock o2 sensors where they are at. you need to put your wideband o2 sensor about 12-14inches from the turbo outlet on the downpipe.

 

[Focker420]

so both sensor have to be installed on the down pipe? I have my stock sensor on my headman header right now and have to chuck that, but don't know if there is a spot already welded to the down pipe for the stock 02 sensor. And i have to install the wideband 02 on the down pipe when i get it. dose it matter how close the 2 sensors are to each other.

 

[4UH8ERS]

so both sensor have to be installed on the down pipe? I have my stock sensor on my headman header right now and have to chuck that, but don't know if there is a spot already welded to the down pipe for the stock 02 sensor. And i have to install the wideband 02 on the down pipe when i get it. dose it matter how close the 2 sensors are to each other.

this is a simple concept. let me break it down for you.
our ECU does not like a simulated output and the stock ECU will make sure it runs rich without the correct O2. you must run both Sensors, stock and Wideband.


Take your new down pipe i dont care what it looks like or where the o2 bung is at on it. look at the thing, if the o2 bung thats already welded on it is near the bottom of the pipe, which is where the original one would be, then put your oem sensor in that hole. no buts just do it. then buy a new o2 bung and weld it in 12-14 inches from the very top of the downpipe for the best results. thats it your done an extra o2 bung is like 3 dollars.

 

[dr1665]

this is a simple concept. let me break it down for you.
our ECU does not like a simulated output and the stock ECU will make sure it runs rich without the correct O2. you must run both Sensors, stock and Wideband.

Unless you're using Megasquirt to control your fuel, in which case the stock ECU can trim fuel until it's blue in the face - it's not affecting anything at that route, as the injectors aren't being controlled by it any more.

IMO, there is no reason to install a wideband if you don't have a means with which to make use of it on the fly (ie: MSnS). If you're just "tuning" with an SAFC or SFMU, then I think you would be smart to just pay for the WB at a dyno shop.

A blinky light AF gauge is about useless, but why pay $400 or more for wideband if you're not going to actually be able to do anything with it? Food for thought.

 

[4UH8ERS]

Unless you're using Megasquirt to control your fuel, in which case the stock ECU can trim fuel until it's blue in the face - it's not affecting anything at that route, as the injectors aren't being controlled by it any more.

sorry driggs what are you trying to say here.

 

[VelocitàPaola]

He's saying the only time it's feasible to connect the ECU to a simulated narrowband output is if you're using Megasquirt. When MS is in control of the fuel, then it doesn't really matter if the ECU is happy or not... it won't affect the performance of the car at that point.


I bet you can use the O2 sensor from a GSX/GS-T provided it physically fits... After all, the GS-T practically uses the exact same exhaust (save for the muffler) as the GS/RS, and most narrowband O2 sensors are basically universal in design and function (0-1V signal). This is purely conjecture, though, so don't take my word for it. The only way to know for sure is to test it... just be careful and know the risks.

 

[4UH8ERS]

He's saying the only time it's feasible to connect the ECU to a simulated narrowband output is if you're using Megasquirt. When MS is in control of the fuel, then it doesn't really matter if the ECU is happy or not... it won't affect the performance of the car at that point..

ohh gotcha, just the way it was said confused me i guess

I bet you can use the O2 sensor from a GSX/GS-T provided it physically fits... After all, the GS-T practically uses the exact same exhaust (save for the muffler) as the GS/RS, and most narrowband O2 sensors are basically universal in design and function (0-1V signal). This is purely conjecture, though, so don't take my word for it. The only way to know for sure is to test it... just be careful and know the risks.

i wouldn't even attempt that to be honest. o2 sensors are cheap and easy to come by, new or used.

 

[Locke]

your talking about the upstream sensor, yes?

the bosch replacement part is the same for both vehicles. Bosch#13425.
My answer would be yes, the 95gsx upstream sensor will work in a 96nt upstream.

But 4uh8ers has a point. It is only 70-100 dollars new, why not just get a fresh one?

 

[4UH8ERS]

But 4uh8ers has a point. It is only 70-100 dollars new, why not just get a fresh one?

actually at http://www.automedicsupply.com/catalog.php?&engine=L4-2.0L+GS,RS you can get one brand new, with anti sieze lubricant and all, for 49.98 and shipping is free.

and the fact that the part numbers are the same is good to know thanks for the info.

 

[viperlp01]

thanx guys i didn't think i would get all this info... good deal.

 

[Locke]

np 4uh8ers, and thank you for the link. i didn't know of that place.