What Turbo is this? [Merged] Turbo ID Identification

[JayRolla]

It seems like the seals are bad too. That looks like a nice layer of coking on your compressor blades.

That could also be the oil thats recirculated back from the valve cover.

That turbo is so small when you drive a startion with that turbo it spools so fast and runs out of breath that the 2.6L doesnt even feel like its turbocharged. The starquests came with two turbos and the 12a was the small crappy one that should have never even been used on that motor.

 

[toofast82]

Yeah, the turbine wheel looks free of oil. The turbine seal will usually go first from being exposed to more heat. It's probably recirculated oil from vc as said. As long as there is not excessive play, it should be fine to use, even though it is a useless turbo. Maybe a lawnmower project?

 

[JayRolla]

Yeah, the turbine wheel looks free of oil. The turbine seal will usually go first from being exposed to more heat. It's probably recirculated oil from vc as said. As long as there is not excessive play, it should be fine to use, even though it is a useless turbo. Maybe a lawnmower project?

Hey it could still turn a little honda from 100whp to about 150whp. Would be a little fun I guess. I would but it on a bar stool racer!!!

 

[2gawdtsi]

I say you jump the person that sold you that,
telling you its a 14b.

 

[mitsuman3000]

yup, that is waaaaay uncool. Time for a refund, with a little interest

 

[knochgoon24]

Hey it could still turn a little honda from 100whp to about 150whp. Would be a little fun I guess. I would but it on a bar stool racer!!!

I'd go with a TD025 turbo for the bar stool. It's twin scroll!

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Thought about putting a 9b on a 350cc motorcycle.

 

[toofast82]

Hey it could still turn a little honda from 100whp to about 150whp. Would be a little fun I guess.

Yeah, but think about all the modification necessary to turbo an n/a for that turbo. It just doesn't add up to me. Then when he's not happy with his power output, he'll then have to modify manifold, o2housing, etc to accomodate a better flowing turbo with different housings
I would just spend another $100 and at least pick up a 14b to start from. Sell that 12a for whatever he can get for it and learn a lesson.

 

[canada4g63]

you can pick up a 14b off ebay for 100bux. get a refund.

 

[Maicon]

basicly a 16g is double bladed and a 14b isnt.also if its a 14b u should only be able to get 2 fingers in the inlet as if u was checking for shaft play wen a 16g u should be able to fit 4 fingers in there if not all 5 depending how wide your finger is.thats the easiest way also by lookin if its double bladed

 

[johnboy1065]

hey ya'll


I just bought a 1991 talon awd turbo and the owner said it has a 20g turbo on it.

well, the compressor housing says TD05 on it, which means it is at least a 16g compressor housing is that correct?


well, it's in rough shape and I was taking it apart to try and clean it and when I took the O2 housing off I saw a FP (forced performance) logo stamped into the exhaust housing

I will post pics up soon but I'm really not sure what the turbo is. also, the previous owner doesnt know since it was done before he bought the car

thanks,
John

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[Littlebeeper]

tdo5 is also the housing for the 14b if the compressor wheel is single finned blades (sorry can't remember the what that is called right now). 16G has the double blade wheel. pics and a measurement of the wheels would help to see if its a 20g

 

[JusMX141]

well, the compressor housing says TD05 on it, which means it is at least a 16g compressor housing is that correct?

Could be anything from a 14B to a 20G. You can't tell for sure without pulling the housings and measuring the wheel(s), but I'm willing to bet there's a least a Big 16G compressor wheel behind the cover.

 

[johnboy1065]

Could be anything from a 14B to a 20G. You can't tell for sure without pulling the housings and measuring the wheel(s), but I'm willing to bet there's a least a Big 16G compressor wheel behind the cover.

how do I measure? and for what measurements would I be looking for in order for it to be a 20g, 16g, big 16g, 14b etc...???

thanks,
John

 

[johnboy1065]

anybody know how to measure a turbo's compressor and turbine wheels?

I'm trying to identify what I have, before I go start buying mods

BTW the FP forced performance logo is really faint and cant be seen on camera so i didnt take a pic of it. I could barely see it with my eye, but I'm sure it's there I've seen it many times when dealing with turbos

 

[JayRolla]

Could be anything from a 14B to a 20G. You can't tell for sure without pulling the housings and measuring the wheel(s), but I'm willing to bet there's a least a Big 16G compressor wheel behind the cover.

Cant be a 14b with the twin bladed turbine wheel right? Dont the 14bs have a lot of little single blades.?

 

[95eclipser]

its actually looks like a evo3 16g... but don't take my world for it
can we have a shoot of the hot side of the compressor housing and close up of the blade??

 

[GSXSixteenG]

Looks like a 16g to me by the way the flange is on the compressor cover

 

[JusMX141]

Definitely appears to be a 20G compressor wheel. The compressor cover shows the turbo began life as a Small 16G (49178-05200), and that's much bigger than a Small 16G compressor.

Still can't bank on it being a 20G with just a visual glance.....the 18G and 20G compressors look nearly identical behind a cover.

Cant be a 14b with the twin bladed turbine wheel right? Dont the 14bs have a lot of little single blades.?

When this thread was first opened, the post did not contain pics. We now know it's definitely not a 14B.

its actually looks like a evo3 16g... but don't take my world for it
can we have a shoot of the hot side of the compressor housing and close up of the blade??

Definitely not an Evo III hotside.

Looks like a 16g to me by the way the flange is on the compressor cover

No pun intended, but you can't judge the compressor wheel by it's cover.

Does this look like a 16G to you? (Hint, count the compressor blades)

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[->PrOjEcTGS<-]

What does the tag say that I outlined in red?

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http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/articles-turbo-system-intercooler/313105-16g-serial-numbers.html

14B
49178-01010
49178-01030
49178-01400
49178-01410

Small 16G
49178-01520
49178-05200

Big 16G
49178-01420

Evo I Big 16G
49178-01450

Evo II Big 16G
49178-01460

Evo III Big 16G
49178-01470

 

[->PrOjEcTGS<-]

The compressor cover shows the turbo began life as a Small 16G (49178-05200), and that's much bigger than a Small 16G compressor.

Wow... You got good eyes...

Does this look like a 16G to you? (Hint, count the compressor blades)

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Yes!! Now sell it to me at a used E316G price!

Just for reference:

Small 16g:

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Big 16g:

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Evo 3 16g:

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Knock off Bastard 20g:

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[JayRolla]

Definitely appears to be a 20G compressor wheel. The compressor cover shows the turbo began life as a Small 16G (49178-05200), and that's much bigger than a Small 16G compressor.

Still can't bank on it being a 20G with just a visual glance.....the 18G and 20G compressors look nearly identical behind a cover.



When this thread was first opened, the post did not contain pics. We now know it's definitely not a 14B.



Definitely not an Evo III hotside.



No pun intended, but you can't judge the compressor wheel by it's cover.

Does this look like a 16G to you? (Hint, count the compressor blades)

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, my bad. I know you rebuild turbos and I was confused no one knew what it was. I guess I just glanced over the rest of the post too fast.

 

[johnboy1065]

new pics added, closeup of the compressor blades....would it help if I were to take the compressor housing off to see the whole blade?

49178-05200 is the number that is on the housing.

So this far we know that it is a small 16G compressor housing paired with an unidentified compressor wheel and unidentified turbine wheel is that correct?

thanks for ya'lls help, I'm a newbie when it comes to DSM's and these turbos

 

[johnboy1065]

to me, it looks like it could be a bastard 20g.....maybe???


I wonder if I call Forced performance if they could help me identify it....

 

[gstryyder]

take off the compressor cover. measure the sizes of the wheel... problem will b solved lickity split once that is done...

 

[johnboy1065]

take off the compressor cover. measure the sizes of the wheel... problem will b solved lickity split once that is done...

I am VERY willing to do this, Just not sure how it's done...ALSO, what measurements would I be looking for in a 20g turbo or 16g turbo?