Cool, thanks, I guess i'll do some searching nad see if i can find a proper spring rate. I almost want to just put them on to make her happy, but i don't want to end up dead from a roll over because a strut broke either. So that leaeves me wondering if they'd last till i got some hyperco's and if the car would even be off the ground enough to move with those springs. If i do install them i plan on putting the set screws towards the bottom since they tend to actually touch something there. God this is frustrating, nothing worse than telling a loved one that you HAVE to return or can't use what they gave you for christmass when they thought they got you exactly what you wanted