@Anthony Hornback These will be a big group buy in and the biggest going due to the injection molding tooling required and costs to take this massive task on. As long as I can get a good amount of backers for the group buy and with my funding also. Tooling being made and prototyping before final production runs could be about 3-4 months from putting that order into get made. I will be working with and injection molding place throughout all this process as an estimate of course. Timing and schedules change month to month so would know more closer to the time of plus depends how long it takes to fill the base amounts required to help get this off the ground!