Tial wastegate hitting alternator, punishment o2, help!

[genegoesfast]

There are pics and info involving the dump tube problem towards the bottom of the page. The issue directly below was resolved by Tim at Punishment Racing. Thanks for looking.

I just installed my punishment racing o2 housing with external dump. Everything was going great until it came time for me to install the tial 38mm gate and dump tube. The way the gate is oriented it smacks into the alternator before it sits flat on the o2 housing flange. I also noticed the alternator seems to be almost all the way out in it's adjustment which shows in the pics. Take a look and let me know what you guys think. Thanks.

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Can't help but show off my new fp manifold. Thanks black Friday sale!

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[TJCTalon]

Id like to know about this too. I ordered one of these recently and im hoping it wont have fitmit issues

 

[airmail96]

Looks like it is time to relocate that alternator .

 

[genegoesfast]

I would but I have ac.

 

[airmail96]

These cars had A/C? Hmm almost seems like the only thing that might fit in there is an MV-S or some other smaller wastegate.

 

[genegoesfast]

The new turbosmart 38mm gate is an inch smaller in height and width. The dumb thing is, that o2 housing was designed with the tial 38mm gate in mind. If the flange was turned toward the radiator a little more I wouldn't have any issues.

 

[JusMX141]

TalonDave just went through the same thing with a customer's car he was installing a TiAL MVS on two weeks ago. Tried two different manifolds- nothing helped. His solution was to install a 1G alternator.

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/tur...t-racing-vs-map-o2-housing.html#post152785531

 

[airmail96]

That's crappy. Hope someone can chime in with another idea.

 

[genegoesfast]

TalonDave just went through the same thing with a customer's car he was installing a TiAL MVS on two weeks ago. Tried two different manifolds- nothing helped. His solution was to install a 1G alternator.

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/tur...t-racing-vs-map-o2-housing.html#post152785531

Is a 1g alternator that much smaller? Does it output the same amperage?

Any other ideas?

 

[punishment]

Is a 1g alternator that much smaller? Does it output the same amperage?

Any other ideas?

It looks like we accidentally shipped you the VR4 version like we had discussed on the phone. Ship it back and I will make sure you get the proper o2 housing and refund you the shipping costs. Sorry about the mixup.

Tim
Punishment Racing

 

[genegoesfast]

All good. I'll get it in the mail tomorrow. Thanks for taking care of this.

Sent from my phone fool.

 

[genegoesfast]

Also can u pm me the address I need to ship to?

Sent from my phone fool.

 

[e85_4g63]

I like how Tim always takes care of his customers. Customer service is something that is lacking in the DSM community, and "he" (Punishment Racing) brings it to the table.

 

[airmail96]

+1 for good customer service.

 

[Dert]

My gate also hits the alternator and I had to bash my fan in quite alot...oh well, it's in!! Lol

 

[genegoesfast]

Tim took care of the o2 housing issue. It fits great now. I now have a dump pipe issue. It dumps directly on to my intercooler pipe. To the point where I can't install my lower pipe cause it hits the dump tube first.

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[Devilsfutbol17]

I would cut the dump tube and use a flexible exhaust repair kit. They have many different sizes as well. 3A Racing/1 3/4 in. i.d. flexible exhaust repair kit (17031) | Exhaust Pipe and Adapter | AutoZone.com

I have one on my dump tube and it works great. It will hold whichever shape you flex it to. I made my current dumptube just long enough to fit the flexible tube over it. Then I just shaped it to where I needed it.

 

[genegoesfast]

Yeah, that's a definite idea. I might try to fab something too. How well does that flex stay put after you bend it the way you want?

 

[Devilsfutbol17]

It doesn't move. Its very sturdy. It will only change shape if you apply some decent force to it. You can go to the autoparts store and open up the box to play with it before you buy it, plus its cheap as hell. I am about to use two of them on a dual wastegate setup I'm making. I just try to make the dumptube long enough fit the flexible tube on, and long enough to where I can put the flex tube away from dumping on anything.

 

[genegoesfast]

I went a bought the flex you talked about. I think I might use it as more of a template for building something else. I also didn't cut enough off of the existing pipe, so I'm just barely clearing the intercooler pipe.

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[Devilsfutbol17]

Nice, that looks good. I currently have and would in your case, wrap the flex tube with exhaust wrapping if you decided to leave it like that for a while.

 

[genegoesfast]

Absolutely what I was planning on doing! They didn't have any at auto zone hahahaha.

 

[Chrispy0530]

+1 for good customer service.

+1 On this.

I called them a month ago or so to order a FMIC, and it got delivered to my door with no problems.

Not to thread jack or anything. But I've been tempted on ordering their 02 Housing-External Waste Gate Recirculated. Problem is I don't see how it'd fit with a Saturn Alternator down there.

 

[genegoesfast]

Here's some mock up pics of what I'm going with.

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Work progression to final product. Not the most amazing welding ever, but something im proud of for my first tubular fabrication. My friend did the welding for me(hes a beginner too).

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[Devilsfutbol17]

Nice man, someday I will get the means to do my own welding.