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07-10-2009, 02:16 PM
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From: St. Louis, Missouri
Registered: Nov 2003
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manifolds that work with holset hx35 hx40
I wanted to compile a list of known working manifolds for the hx35 hx40 and similiar turbos since a lot end up hitting the water pipe and such.
List your exhaust manifold, what turbo housing your using with it and if you're using any spacers and what kind of clearance you have.
I'll go first
hx40
obx r manifold -yep the cheapest imatation works fine
bep .55 housing
no spacers
plenty of clearance between the turbo and water pipe (like 1.25")
no driver side fan, no room for it
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353HP/335TQ on mustang dyno 370HP/411TQ on dynojet
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07-10-2009, 06:02 PM
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From: albuquerque, New Mexico
Registered: Oct 2007
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Holset he351cw, Revhard manifold, custom downpipe. This manifold holds anything!!! Also it only cost 219$ from revhard
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07-29-2009, 01:29 PM
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From: Stockton, California
Registered: Jan 2004
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Will a Bolt-On HX35 or HX40 fit with a FP Race Manifold without water pipe issues?
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-Chris-
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-GReddy 18g-
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07-29-2009, 01:45 PM
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From: Hagerstown, Maryland
Registered: Mar 2005
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HX-40, BEP bolt on housing, stock 2G exhaust manifold, no spacers.
Had to dent the water pipe a bit, and compressor cover touches the block. It could clear the block by about a 1/4 to 1/2 inch but my lower intercooler pipe would interfere with the front motor mount.
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Clint
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07-29-2009, 02:14 PM
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From: Stockton, California
Registered: Jan 2004
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The 40 comp cover is much larger than the 35 right?
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-Chris-
-97 GSX-
-GReddy 18g-
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08-09-2009, 12:18 PM
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DSM Wiseman

From: Bloxom, Virginia
Registered: Jul 2004
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Strm Trpr
The 40 comp cover is much larger than the 35 right?
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No they are the same size, mostly. Of course, Hoslet will throw in an oddball one way or the other for the sake of a specific OEM need/requirement/benefit.
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Matt
dd '90 GST, Holset H1C
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08-09-2009, 12:32 PM
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From: Greenwood, Indiana
Registered: Aug 2007
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I run the HX-35/WH1C with the FP mani. The bung on the water pipe that was used for coolant to the stock turbo had to be sanded down a little bit because when I clock the compressor cover, it would scrape against the side of the bung. Other than that, it fit like it was meant to be there.
EDIT: on the BEP .55 A/R bolton housing of course
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-Dennis
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09-05-2009, 09:45 PM
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From: San Jose, California
Registered: Aug 2007
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Previously, I had a HX40 with a FP manifold. I needed to dent the water pipe a little and a spacer wouldn't hurt.
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09-05-2009, 10:07 PM
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From: Cape Girardeau, Missouri
Registered: Feb 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1gDSM4g63
Previously, I had a HX40 with a FP manifold. I needed to dent the water pipe a little and a spacer wouldn't hurt.
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So this would probably be the same case for a 2g with an hx35?
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09-06-2009, 12:03 PM
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From: Oliver, BC, Canada
Registered: May 2004
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DNP T3 manifold with bullseye .70 AR housing and hx40. clears stock waterline by 3/4 of a inch with no spacers.
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mike
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09-07-2009, 12:59 PM
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From: cherry hill, New Jersey
Registered: Oct 2005
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Have an HX35 with a Bolt on Housing and an SBR cast external wastegate manifold (no spacer). Only had to dent the water pipe a tiny bit, and everything fits nicely even with the stock radiator fan!
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09-07-2009, 04:37 PM
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From: Cape Girardeau, Missouri
Registered: Feb 2007
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So it looks like between any of these they would still require some water pipe denting,
Stock 2g
fp
sbr cast
Seems like it might be best to stick with the stocker?
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02-05-2010, 07:36 PM
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From: Cape Girardeau, Missouri
Registered: Feb 2007
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Originally Posted by cooldude919
So it looks like between any of these they would still require some water pipe denting,
Stock 2g
fp
sbr cast
Seems like it might be best to stick with the stocker?
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Any other thoughts on this? Still trying to decide on what manifold to go with, or stay with the stocker.
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02-05-2010, 08:02 PM
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From: Hagerstown, Maryland
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I recently switched to an FP manifold. And like most have said it puts it in the same spot as the stocker. Still would need some denting to make it fit. Looks just like my picture above.
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Clint
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02-05-2010, 08:08 PM
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DSM Wiseman

From: OKC, Oklahoma
Registered: Jan 2007
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Could you guys also include how you're gating them, and any clearance issues with that?
I'm about to go HX35 myself and am still undecided on the housing/manny, and how I want to gate it. This is a great thread BTW. Glad to see this one specific topic get it's own space.
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02-05-2010, 08:26 PM
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From: Cape Girardeau, Missouri
Registered: Feb 2007
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Originally Posted by calan
Could you guys also include how you're gating them, and any clearance issues with that?
I'm about to go HX35 myself and am still undecided on the housing/manny, and how I want to gate it. This is a great thread BTW. Glad to see this one specific topic get it's own space.
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Dont bother with an internal gate.
I already have an hx35, .55ar bep housing, tial WG, PR o2 housing.
It seems it isnt really worth it to buy a new exhaust manifold at least for me, so i will probably stay with the stock 2g (ported a bit) for now.
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02-05-2010, 08:29 PM
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From: OKC, Oklahoma
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I'm trying to figure out a way to keep my ported E3 O2 housing. I really don't want to buy a different DP. I went through DP hell a few years ago before finding the right one for this housing, and it left a sour taste in my mouth.
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02-05-2010, 08:33 PM
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From: Hagerstown, Maryland
Registered: Mar 2005
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Mine is externally gated off the o2 housing. I used an ebay stainless o2 housing, then cut out a section for an ebay 38mm gate. I had a clearance issue with the alternator so I relocated it to the back. $10 to relocate the alternator, $70 for the wastegate, $70 for the housing, $60 for the welding. Still cheaper than just a Tial wastegate alone.
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Clint
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02-05-2010, 08:36 PM
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From: Reading, Pennsylvania
Registered: May 2006
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WH1C in .55 BEP Housing.
Stock Manifold.
1G NT Waterpipe, Dented little.
3" O2 Housing with 46mm WG, Alternator Relocated, 3/8" clearance not relocated.
The BEP .55 moves the exhaust forward 3/8-1/2", added extra flange in front of Cat-Back to compensate.
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0xCEDD7
95 6-Bolt WH1C
99 ECU Self Coded & Tuned
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02-11-2010, 05:34 PM
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From: IE, California
Registered: Jun 2008
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anyone know of someone running a turbonetics t3 flange mani with a hx35 with the stock t3 housing? clerance issues?
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-Adam.
2G poly roll stops, solid sub-frame and diff bushings, Holset turbos and custom turbine housings
<-Click "Freelancer"
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03-15-2010, 09:40 AM
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Car: AWD 4g63 Mirage
From: Spring, Texas
Registered: Sep 2004
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Quote:
Originally Posted by black_gst
anyone know of someone running a turbonetics t3 flange mani with a hx35 with the stock t3 housing? clerance issues?
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It will not clear the water pipe or block. Needs at least a 1/2 spacer to work. Just figured that out, yay for wasting a week of waiting for a manifold that won't work.
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Luke-*89 Mirage- Holset powered 4g63t AWD*
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03-15-2010, 09:50 AM
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From: IE, California
Registered: Jun 2008
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i mocked mine up on my friends spare block with his hx35 and my turbonetics mani. it looked like if you put a 1/2" spacer between the mani and the turbo it would fit perfect
and a t3 flange is easy to come but and 4 longer studs arent hard to find either
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-Adam.
2G poly roll stops, solid sub-frame and diff bushings, Holset turbos and custom turbine housings
<-Click "Freelancer"
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03-15-2010, 09:53 AM
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From: stratford, ON, Canada
Registered: Dec 2005
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HY-35 with a braced T3 xspower ebay manifold.
No waterpipe denting
Had to cut away some of the front motor mount for clearance of the oil drain.
Rewelded wastegate flange and angled differently to clear the power steering.
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03-15-2010, 10:10 AM
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From: Willmar, Minnesota
Registered: Sep 2004
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Do any cheap manifolds work with the stock HX35/WH1C turbine housing without spacers?
I'd prefer one of those cast manifolds that have the wastegate provision. They're under 200 on ebay.
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03-15-2010, 10:19 AM
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From: Brook Park, Ohio
Registered: Mar 2002
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Got a t-3 manifold off ebay, cut a pie out of the bottom flange and then heated and bent it up and rewelded it. Used the n/t waterpipe. It fits perfact between the radiator with internal wastegate and didnt have to dent waterpipe. Ill post pics later. Oh and its a 7-blade hx-35
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BWhite
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03-15-2010, 10:36 AM
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From: IE, California
Registered: Jun 2008
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anyone use the Megan racing tubular its only around $200
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-Adam.
2G poly roll stops, solid sub-frame and diff bushings, Holset turbos and custom turbine housings
<-Click "Freelancer"
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03-15-2010, 02:46 PM
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From: San Jose, California
Registered: Aug 2007
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Tubular may look sicker but I would trust Megan. Just go with the FP race manifold. It will perform as away or out perform Megan and it's cast iron.
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