hta35r

[inneedof]

Is there anyone running one on a dsm? i would be interested in dyno graphs with this turbo, and what cams the turbo seems to like on a dsm application.

 

[definitiveno]

Is there anyone running one on a dsm? i would be interested in dyno graphs with this turbo, and what cams the turbo seems to like on a dsm application.

I have one sitting inside my car if roadrace will ever give me a date to bring the car in. I'm 10,000 miles away from the car and my cars in pieces so I'm waiting for roadrace to put it all together for me.

 

[blcknspo0ln]

It's pretty new technology, so I suspect there isn't enough people out there using them just yet.

 

[definitiveno]

There's a dozen or so on evom sporting them.

 

[90laserRSfwd]

there are dyno graphs right on FP's website, there of Buschurs EVO though so I suppose that didn't give you what your looking for?

 

[talon2005]

will try to do a video by the end of the week but on the street

awd 97 2,3 7 bolt htagt35r a/r .82 gt

 

[TALONTED]

Coming from the EVO side of things, the HTA35R is becoming the best thing to come out since sliced bread. The guys who have them on EVOs are making INSANE power levels, especially on pump gas.

One guy on EVOm who lives in Long Island made 580whp on 93 octane (no meth, alcohol, water, etc). Others are making 500whp on pump gas with the stock ECU on straight pump gas. Ive been trying to convince my brother to put one on his DSM!

 

[Boosted98gsx]

On the car and loving every bit of it!

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[fulanititoo8198]

You would have more luck reading about it on evolutionm. I take it this comp wheel isn't available in full garrett?

 

[90laserRSfwd]

You can send a full garrett GT35r to FP and they'll throw the hta wheel and compressor cover on it for $450

 

[ceedawg]

Guys forgive me,but I've seen those letters HTA when I was on the evom forum. What exactly is the HTA that folks are raving about? What does it do and what does it mean? Thanx!

 

[Boosted98gsx]

I was told "houte terra azul" by Robert from FP. He may have been joking

 

[turboglenn]

Boosted98. did you get my PM? i want a look at your IC piping from turbo to IC if you don't mind. I never tried "short route" and can't unless i buy a new FMIC because i have the Buschur spearco core with both openings on the pasenger side of the car. but that was what fit and was "the ticket" 9 years ago..boy things have changed in the dsm world.... DSMlink had to be the 1st best thing for a 2g guy since sliced bread

 

[Boosted98gsx]

DVDT Fab "street' intercooler kit.

 

[awdwhip]

Guys forgive me,but I've seen those letters HTA when I was on the evom forum. What exactly is the HTA that folks are raving about? What does it do and what does it mean? Thanx!

The HTA wheel has a 3mm smaller inducer, and lighter as it is billett. FP also took a substantial amount of weight/material away from the hub area, which also makes it lighter and makes the blades effectively larger. There are also 14 blades on the HTA as opposed to 12 on the typical 35r. From the datalogs, the HTA tends to hit 20ish psi at about the same rpm, but it accelerates from 20-40 much faster, which gives the big torque advantages in the midrange.

 

[ceedawg]

The HTA wheel has a 3mm smaller inducer, and lighter as it is billett. FP also took a substantial amount of weight/material away from the hub area, which also makes it lighter and makes the blades effectively larger. There are also 14 blades on the HTA as opposed to 12 on the typical 35r. From the datalogs, the HTA tends to hit 20ish psi at about the same rpm, but it accelerates from 20-40 much faster, which gives the big torque advantages in the midrange.

Gotcha! It's basically a modded wheel that's been lightened and has 14 blades. Thanks !

 

[We're on Boost]

Gotcha! It's basically a modded wheel that's been lightened and has 14 blades. Thanks !

It's not just modded, it's a whole new redesign of the wheel done by FP and Buscher. If anybody else wants to sell it (like HKS those stinkers) they'll have to buy it from FP if they can. Makes my day.

Be careful you guys when you are looking at data trying to figure out spool and low-end torque for this thing. Below 5000 rpm it makes a pretty big difference whether it's a .63 or a .82 a/r turbine housing. Trouble is most of the evo guys who have posted dyno graphs don't even know what a/r they have! I've been trying to track some of it down with PM's.
The dynos shown on the FP web site are .82 a/r.

U2SLO's car here is also a .82 a/r:
Records are meant to be broken....HTA35r again. - evolutionm.net

cnoevol's car here I believe is a .63 a/r:
New record for pump gas, set with the HTA35r - evolutionm.net

Mellon's car here I believe is a .63 a/r:
Buschur Racing / Forced Performance HTA 35R stock ecu & maf on 93 octane reviewed! - evolutionm.net

The 4 above are pretty comparable because they all use Buschur's kit with the fancy tubular manifold, and they were all tuned and tested on Buscher's Mustang dyno - woops, Mellon tuned his own car and used DLL to dyno from logs.

Anyway, the .63 cars are making about 180 awhp at 4000 rpm, and the .82 cars are making more like 120 awhp at 4000 rpm.

There's a whole thread about this on evolutionm.net that got kinda nowhere because Buscher wasn't very helpful and the guys who own them didn't seem to know what they had!
Mr. Buschur: HTA 35R with .63 hotside instead of .82? - evolutionm.net

They're all good threads.

 

[TurboAWDKID]

Wow! those are some impressive numbers with the hta35r on pump gas! ive been planning on running the hta35 on the motor im building paired with some crower 272/272 and 30+psi, but i didnt think you could get away running pump gas with that much boost and no added injection (alchy/water)

 

[TALONTED]

Wow! those are some impressive numbers with the hta35r on pump gas! ive been planning on running the hta35 on the motor im building paired with some crower 272/272 and 30+psi, but i didnt think you could get away running pump gas with that much boost and no added injection (alchy/water)

Buschur is tuning a lot of EVOs (although they are built with AEM EMS) at 28-31psi on 93octane only. There are a couple threads over on EVOm about it.

 

[Boosted98gsx]

just takes retarded low timing.

 

[blcknspo0ln]

Ah, the age old question, more boost or more timing?

 

[Boosted98gsx]

Ah, the age old question, more boost or more timing?

Depends on the efficiency of the compressor. If you're stuck at 20 psi because you're knocking on a turbo that is better off at 30, drop timing, increase boost. You'll get more power with the added airflow than you would on the aggressive timing curve.

 

[TurboAWDKID]

id be running 30-35 psi on it with dsmlink. i think at least i would need to run a mix of pump and race gas. of course, ill try a tune on 94 and see what i can do with that first.

 

[definitiveno]

car finally made it to rre hopefully we have her working in the next two weeks

 

[Boosted98gsx]

Here is my first log with the HTA35R