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Old 08-30-2007, 03:05 PM Show Printable Version Show Printable Version   Email this Post to a Friend Email this Post      #1 (permalink)
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Dejon FMIC,SLOWBOY FMIC, ETS FMIC? WHICH ONE

I dont know which fmic to get since they all look good. Ive got a sbr-60 trim turbo that im going to run probably at around 19-20 psi . Im going to be running a tial bov with gm maf also maybe someone can point me in the right direction.

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i would go with the ETS pro race fmic kit. Great fit good quality and amazing customer service from tom and his team. I had a pipe that wasnt fitting right emailed tom and he had a new pipe in the mail to me asap. you cant beat service like that. i can get pics of mine if you would like to see.

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I dont know which fmic to get since they all look good. Ive got a sbr-60 trim turbo that im going to run probably at around 19-20 psi . Im going to be running a tial bov with gm maf also maybe someone can point me in the right direction.
i couldn't agree more, the staff at ets are great people and make a fantastic product.

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SSAC here @ 18psi daily.
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Just ordered the 1g race kit for my 90 from ETS. I was told I should receive it sometime middle of next week. Free shipping too if you order it today. I will let you know how it goes!

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sbr 2g fmic is badass

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ets looks good. but if you want to save a bit money, go with ssac 2g kit. have the driverside endtank flipped if you want to use it for a 1g. my friend has made over 400awhp on a mustang dyno with a 35r.

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Ssac Ftw!!

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I am running a Full Function FMIC. I love it and am making over 400awhp on a mustang dyno easily and there has been no heat soak. My friend is also making over 500awhp on the same dyno. Here's the link..

http://www.fftec.com/articles.php?article_id=170
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Ssac Ftw!!
I heard that if you call SSAC, they'll give you a good price on the FMIC kit. Can anyone confirm this? Tom.


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punishment racing has a nice fmic kit. its like 425 shipped


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punishment racing has a nice fmic kit. its like 425 shipped
I could only see the 1G kit. Do they have a 2G kit as well? If so, can you post a link? Thanks, Tom.


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I agree with the Pro-Race recommendation! It will give you some headroom to run that turbo to its limit if you ever choose to do so and we can set you up for the Tial/GM UICP without a problem. If you or anyone else has any questions don't hesitate to contact me directly!

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I have a SSAC kit and will eventually switch over to a ETS kit for the new tial bov

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I duno if I can say this in these forums but I ordered the punishment 1g uicp and that thing is as soft as JELLO. when I tried to mount the bov to it, the flange bent. when I tried to mount the tb elbow to the tb, the flange on that bent as well! and I'm sure their fmic kit uses the same material piping.

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I heard that if you call SSAC, they'll give you a good price on the FMIC kit. Can anyone confirm this? Tom.
Yes, this is correct. Email them at sales@ssautochrome.com and mention you're a dsmtuners.com member. The special price is somewhere around $315 shipped.


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I have a SSAC kit and will eventually switch over to a ETS kit for the new tial bov
If you want, you can use the Tial bov on the SSAC kit. That's what my brother just did.
[RESOLVED] SSAC FMIC and Tial BOV


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I duno if I can say this in these forums but I ordered the punishment 1g uicp and that thing is as soft as JELLO. when I tried to mount the bov to it, the flange bent. when I tried to mount the tb elbow to the tb, the flange on that bent as well! and I'm sure their fmic kit uses the same material piping.

Ive installed the PR fmic kit a couple of times, and for the price its very hard to beat. I had no issues with the bov or TB flange. im not sure how you managed to bend either one. There must be some difference in the flanges used on the UICP kit. The TB flange specifically is nearly half an inch thick on the fmic kit. unlike some other brand kits that use thin steel flanges that seem to warp sometimes.
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wow that's a helpful comment... lol...
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I got the SBR RACE FMIC kit, for my 91 awd. Fitment was a piece of cake, just had to cut the rad. supports with a sawzall and grind them down with a dremel. Very short piping route. I accidently forget to tell them what intake manifold i was running because the throttle body elbow was off by quite a bit.(1g Style) Sent it back and get it reangled and welded correctly for the magnus SMIM


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I have been doing a lot of homework myself lately on FMICs, and I'm sold on ETS.

Short route, keep the fogs, fitment, etc. etc.

When I do buy it, I think the only thing that would make it perfect would be a stencil of the ETS logo so I can spray paint the it on to the fascia . . . but maybe the box it comes in will have a logo of good size I can just cut out.

I'm not saying any of the other kits fail, but ETS is surely the winner :-)
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Ets looks great and some of the other vendors have bad reps. Research vendors before buying.
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Ive installed the PR fmic kit a couple of times, and for the price its very hard to beat. I had no issues with the bov or TB flange. im not sure how you managed to bend either one. There must be some difference in the flanges used on the UICP kit. The TB flange specifically is nearly half an inch thick on the fmic kit. unlike some other brand kits that use thin steel flanges that seem to warp sometimes.
I guess the uicp on the fmic kit is different cus the tb on mine was thin aluminum like u said

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I bought a 31x12x3 like this one. Heres their ebay store. Got the whole intercooler setup with t-bolt clamps, silicone couplers and 2.75" piping for well under $200.

SSAC isn't the only option for an ebay/budget intercooler, it's just more proven in the community. If you don't mind doing very minor fab work and cutting your own bends from a kit, you can save some serious money. Mine has performed flawlessly for me and the car just plain feels solid even in 90+ weather, although I currently have no real hard numbers on its performance.

Just saying you don't need to drop a ton of cash to reap the performance benefits of a fat intercooler. If I hit something and screw up my FMIC, I can replace it 5-6 times or more for the cost of some of the ones you've mentioned. I'd be willing to bet the one I linked to would be every bit as reliable and function nearly the same as any other expensive options. I don't have first hand experience with the SSAC one, but if you want an easy install, I think that's perfect for you.


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nobody likes or has the sbr fmic
I have the 1G street kit from SBR and i hate it. first, it cost to much when there are other FMIC kits to be had for cheaper that have better quality, and second i had to extend the piping from the turbo outlet to the intercooler. also where they put the piping makes it very hard to put the clamps on. in other words, you will have bloody knuckles.

oh yeah, and it took a month and a half before i got it.


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Yea I won't argue that on the business side of things, SBR is somewhat lacky. but their FMIC is one of the more impressive cores that ive seen. and the price is more in the middle compared to other "full race" kits. im sure the reason for the delay is because SBR plays the middle man for whoever makes it.
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