Dejon Tool's New BOV... Discussion inside.

[Injected]

I noticed this new vendor announcement in the forums:

DEJON Type S Blow Off Valve. - $69 This is a copy of the Greddy Type S (which they no longer make). It seals very well, much better than the new DSM 1g's (which leak around the valve stem and back into your compressor) It does not need an extra cost recirculation tube like most of the other BOV's. For low boost applications, It can be configured with a boost pressure hose to the tube under the "hat". For high boost, vent that tube to atm. Or get our BOV-LSK to do both.

Their websit currently says exactly the same. I'm not sure where they are made, what psi they are capable of holding. That is why I started this thread. I've also contacted Dejon through email and thier account here on DSM tuners and will be letting you guys know if I hear anything.

I think it's important that we are wary of any new product that comes out, that is why I am asking about these new bov's. Notice I'm not comming out and accusing Dejon of selling crappy ebay clones, but asking first where and how they are made. Dejon Powerhouse (formerly Dejon Tool) has been a supportive vendor for DSM enthusiasts offering great intercooler, and intercooler pipe upgrades as well as their exhaust line. Again, I would like to know where these are made and if/how they are better than the ebay clones, which have been known to not function very well at all. Here is a picture of an ebay clone:

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[4g63t Power]

I was also currious about these. I have wanted a greddy type s for a while but dont want to dish out 150$ on something my stock bov does fine. I am more currious as to whether these acutally sound like the greddy type s. My friend has the "Greddy style" one you have pictured above and it sounds nothing at all like the true greddy. If dejon or someone who has the new Dejon bov would post up a sound clip that would be awesome! If they sound like the true type s I will be buying one for sure.

 

[Injected]

I was also currious about these. I have wanted a greddy type s for a while but dont want to dish out 150$ on something my stock bov does fine. I am more currious as to whether these acutally sound like the greddy type s. My friend has the "Greddy style" one you have pictured above and it sounds nothing at all like the true greddy. If dejon or someone who has the new Dejon bov would post up a sound clip that would be awesome! If they sound like the true type s I will be buying one for sure.

If you are curious about the sound, I would suggest emailing them since I didn't ask when I emailed them. Personally, I don't really care about the sound as much as the function. If I can get a BOV that holds more boost than a 1G BOV and costs $70, I'm all for it. Again, I didn't even ask about the sound. To each his own .

 

[Maglin]

Well it's cheap. It does look a lot like the Ebay clone but that doesn't mean anything. It's what's inside that makes the difference. I have the Greddy. Got it for $10 and just had to do a little work on it.

 

[Injected]

Its the same as the ebay clones, it works fine. But we have paid inport duties & shipping and provide a gasket.
Dave

Just got the PM. At least with Dejon, you know you will recieve it. I think I will stick to name brands when it comes to buying things with moving parts like a BOV.

 

[chicagoavenger]

Funny some people rant on companies that make knockoff's now Dejon jumps on the bandwagon. I wonder if people will start bashing Dejon for making these. Maybe they buy them from ebay and put a different spring in it, slap there name on it and call it a day.hmmmmmmm

 

[ITSME4G63]

If youre going to go with a knockoff, go with one from which its a proven company, like dejon tool.

 

[Injected]

Funny some people rant on companies that make knockoff's now Dejon jumps on the bandwagon. I wonder if people will start bashing Dejon for making these. Maybe they buy them from ebay and put a different spring in it, slap there name on it and call it a day.hmmmmmmm

Dejon doesn't buy them from ebay, they buy them from the same source that the ebay companies do. Probably from China (not the good part). There is no reason to 'bash' Dave for offering an alternative to the overpriced aftermarket BOVs. If you have a problem with them, then don't buy them and if enough people pass over them, Dejon may decide not to carry them. Personally, I wouldn't put my name on a black-market clone type BOV. Dave is risking having a crappy part associated with his company. But you have to respect his decision as a business owner that provides solutions for the needs of his costomer base, which may or may not include people who want a cheap alternative to the 1G bov.

If youre going to go with a knockoff, go with one from which its a proven company, like dejon tool.

Eh, a knockoff is a knockoff. The only reason someone should buy this BOV from Dejon vs eBay is because Dejon is a trusted company with a strong clientele. No other reason really.

 

[CvicKila02]

I emailed Dejon tool and they said "It is a Chinese copy of the Greddy Type S. We have tested it for leakage and operation and it is very similar to the Greddy 'S' It holds boost
better than the DSM 1g and almost as well as the new Greddy RS. " I have never had any problems with Dejon tool and they have great service. The BOV looks alot smoother casting than the ebay knock off's. Has anyone purchased one of these yet.

 

[KPEclipse]

I don't understand what the arguement is here. It was clearly stated that the BOV is being purchased from the same place that the knockoff ebay bov's are being purchased. To me, I don't understand why you'd put a $3000 plus motor AND your turbo at risk for a $70 BOV. Look on the forums, look around, and worst comes to worst, knuckle up and get a name brand BOV.
If Dejon says they hold boost as well as a 1g or a Greddy Type (r)S, and you are ok with just purchasing one, go for it. Me personally, I can only buy things that are tried and true. I'm not bashing anyone or their products. Just my .02

 

[TSIMonsteR]

I agree, the BOV is a very important piece involved in the longevity of your turbo. So, if you have a leaky 1g BOV and not much cash, this could be an option... otherwise, IMO, hold out for something better

 

[DGajre777]

Dejon doesn't buy them from ebay, they buy them from the same source that the ebay companies do. Probably from China (not the good part). There is no reason to 'bash' Dave for offering an alternative to the overpriced aftermarket BOVs. If you have a problem with them, then don't buy them and if enough people pass over them, Dejon may decide not to carry them. Personally, I wouldn't put my name on a black-market clone type BOV. Dave is risking having a crappy part associated with his company. But you have to respect his decision as a business owner that provides solutions for the needs of his costomer base, which may or may not include people who want a cheap alternative to the 1G bov.

I agree.

It might be because people buy intercoolers and when they buy them, they want BOVs. Instead of buying it from ebay now they can get it from him. It is that simple. And if people complain about it dying in a few months, I'm sure he'll stop selling them.

 

[chicagoavenger]

I have no issues with it but I guess the knockoff's aren't as bad as people say if Dejon is selling it. I was just taking a crack at them of where they got them from. It's just still funny people rant on knockoff's. On ebay there like 40 bucks but Dejon sells them for 70 not including shipping correct? Are they doing anything to them different that up's the price 30 bucks besides there name?

 

[-DSM2NR-]

Looks to me like they bought a dozen of those ebay knockoffs, slapped a "Dejon" sticker on them and are selling them for 3 times as much.

 

[KPEclipse]

I'd like to think thats not the deal...I'd like to think they are modifying them to be a bit stronger and better but maybe not...regardless I still dont understand how someone could expect good things from a $70 BOV. When you look at the prices of HKS and Greddy(r)S, you're looking @ 190+, so what is making people think that $70 can get the job done just as well?

 

[Injected]

I guess some of you didn't read my posts very carefully. Let me clarify.

Dave is buying them from the same source that the eBay sources are, the price difference is because of the tariffs and taxes he has to pay, and no other reason. He is not modifying them at all (unless you call stickers modifications, which some people do ). If you want to know exactly what they are like, ask someone with an eBay BOV, it's that simple.

 

[KPEclipse]

So in reality, the question is, do you trust your motor and turbo(at whatever psi you're set @) to a $30 ebay valve?

 

[mavisky]

So in reality, the question is, do you trust your motor and turbo(at whatever psi you're set @) to a $30 ebay valve?

As opposed to a $250 bov like my hks with $30 in parts and a fancy name stuck on it....

If you don't like it don't buy it. If Dave doesn't sell any, he'll quit buying any. I know the kind of testing and work Dave does and if he says they're good then I'll happily take his word on it.

 

[knighteclipse1]

^^^ I agree with the above statement, if it was something that Dave feel's good about selling, its good enough for me!! His service is excellent and his knowledge is top notch. With my dealings with him, he stands behind what he sells...

 

[Coup D E'Tat]

Without public testing, no one really knows what these are like. Why should consumers be in the position to do testing on so crucial a part?

If it works, great, if not, great, but Dejon needs to throw some numbers and experiences out for the potential customers.

 

[KPEclipse]

As opposed to a $250 bov like my hks with $30 in parts and a fancy name stuck on it....

Point proven.

 

[KPEclipse]

Without public testing, no one really knows what these are like. Why should consumers be in the position to do testing on so crucial a part?

haha I had an entire course on the consumer/marketer agreement and whats ethical and what should be done...bringing up that point you could have people arguing with you for hours

 

[Coup D E'Tat]

haha I had an entire course on the consumer/marketer agreement and whats ethical and what should be done...bringing up that point you could have people arguing with you for hours

Yea, I know what you mean. I have my set thoughts on the proper marketer/consumer relations, and everyone else can piss off

 

[KPEclipse]

i know how you feel...trust me i know...i feel like all these companies should tell the 100% truth...but if that was true we'd all have a BOLT ON 650 hp turbo from forcedperformance

 

[mavisky]

Without public testing, no one really knows what these are like. Why should consumers be in the position to do testing on so crucial a part?

If it works, great, if not, great, but Dejon needs to throw some numbers and experiences out for the potential customers.

As a friend of Dave's I can assure you that he tests all of his equipment at the track. I'd have no doubt that this bov was any different.