Anyone make decent T3 Manifolds anymore?

[Boosted98gsx]

Are there any companies out there that sell decent reputable T3 exhaust manifolds that DONT cost an arm and a leg anymore? I know that DNP sells them, but $600 for a manifold is quite rediculous. Are there any places that make/sell these that wont break under their own weight and are decently priced?

 

[definitiveno]

Are there any companies out there that sell decent reputable T3 exhaust manifolds that DONT cost an arm and a leg anymore? I know that DNP sells them, but $600 for a manifold is quite rediculous. Are there any places that make/sell these that wont break under their own weight and are decently priced?

SBR cast + T3 adapter plates + porting/gasket matching = a very nice T3 manifold. But for 400 bucks you could just get the turbonetics cast mani. I wanted to use my JM Fab heat shield and the SBR retains the heat shield bolt holes otherwise I would have used the turbonetics for simplicity.

 

[Coup D E'Tat]

For the record, Slowboy's manifold and the EVOIII are not "bolt-on," if you're using the Hahn plate.

I run the EVOIII, that I ported to 7CM, and the adapter plate (which is, in case anyone isn't aware, a rectangle,) needed ground down at an angle to flow without too much disruption. I would assume this to be the same for the Slowboy, but one could just grind the plate like I did if one wanted to use it. An easier route would be to use a stock (1G, for example) manifold, because the outlet is initially smaller and can simply be hogged to into a rectangle. The downfall to this is the smaller runners/cracking.

If I had the money at the time, I would've went straight T3. Now that some things have settled down, I might get around to fabbing one up for myself. Also, 4-bolt outlet exhaust housings WILL NOT fit using a stock-length manifold with the Hahn plate. There is an almost 3/4" gap because the housing hits the block. Because of this, I still don't have the T3 setup on the car yet

 

[GVR4592]

DNP is about the cheapest manifold you can get that is decent quality, unless you go with an evo3 or sbr and an adapter.

 

[GVR4592]

Coup D E'Tat, do you think that the sbr manifold would help clear the 4 bolt turbine housing? They say the flange is thicker to move the turbo away from the block. I guess it would have to be pretty thick to make up that 3/4" gap.

 

[Boosted98gsx]

yea i wouldn't be trying to do the cheap method of using a t3 turbine. I'd be getting an actual T3 manifold. I want to use the To4S or the surge comp housing, so i'm going to need as much room away from the waterpipe as possible. I'm looking at the turbonetics manifold, but i heard those things have to be heavily ported to match up right.

 

[definitiveno]

I want to mention also that the only one making an O2 housing for the T3 turbo's is victory performance BTW


Not that there's any thing wrong with victory, but it really limits your options.

 

[Boosted98gsx]

I want to mention also that the only one making an O2 housing for the T3 turbo's is victory performance BTW


Not that there's any thing wrong with victory, but it really limits your options.

Nah, just gimme the flange for the turbo side and i can make my own. I have access to a welder (for mild steel not stainless) and my d-pipe flange is a standard 3-bolt 3" triangle collector. That part i'm not too worried about.

 

[definitiveno]

yea i wouldn't be trying to do the cheap method of using a t3 turbine.

There's nothing cheap about the adapter plates dude, those things are pretty solid and also aid in spacing your turbo from your water pipe. There just not practical cause it takes a little work to make them fit good. Check out these pics, there's a few more on other pages too..........



http://www.dsmtalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=136527

 

[definitiveno]

Nah, just gimme the flange for the turbo side and i can make my own. I have access to a welder (for mild steel not stainless) and my d-pipe flange is a standard 3-bolt 3" triangle collector. That part i'm not too worried about.

Excellant, I was floored when I started looking for that part and no one offered it.

Oh well, and I'm not sayin you should do the plates, just throwin em out there

 

[Coup D E'Tat]

Coup D E'Tat, do you think that the sbr manifold would help clear the 4 bolt turbine housing? They say the flange is thicker to move the turbo away from the block. I guess it would have to be pretty thick to make up that 3/4" gap.

I highly doubt it. Maybe that, paired with Hahn's 1/2" spacer plate and longer manifold-to-head studs. Other than that, my money would be on "No."

Later,

 

[Shearer]

Are there any companies out there that sell decent reputable T3 exhaust manifolds that DONT cost an arm and a leg anymore?

What defines costing an arm and a leg? Spending a few hundred dollars for a cheap manifold that cracks time and time again and performs half as good as what it should is not a deal IMO. I know of a few cheap manifolds out there and I see what you are getting. Some of these sell for less than what I have in materials alone in the DSM headers I sell. If you want something of quality the cheapest route is no the best way to go.

I want to mention also that the only one making an O2 housing for the T3 turbo's is victory performance BTW

I believe Victory's o2 housing is designed to work with the turbonetics t3 manifold. I also off an o2 housing to work with my manifolds that bolts up to a stock style exhaust, I need to have that added to the web page one of these days. By the end of the year I'll have everything wrapped up on my DSM turbo kit, I guarantee there won't be any other t3 set-up that can touch it performance wise. The downfall is it won't be $59.95 for the entire kit.

 

[SpooledGSX98]

Dont know what your budget is, but I am certain this manifold will kick all the others in the nuts. This manifold was fab'd right here in Phoenix. http://www.metalmanfab.com

It's on my buddies Spyder, the pictures dont do it justice. This is by far one of the best looking/quality T3 manifolds I have seen. Read about it.

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=202194

 

[almostquick]

get an SS-autocrack, the newer version, cheap as hell ($150-180). Brace it some more and it should last you awhile. Locally there is a guy with a new one and another with the older version. The guy with the older version has had his wastegate fall off a few times, but the guy with the newer one hasnt had any problems. Just remember though if this is a dedicated daily driver, you shouldnt even think about using a tubular manifold, if you want a reliable daily driver pick your self up a cast manifold.

 

[Boosted98gsx]

well after hearing all the crap about tubular manifolds on dsms cracking because of the constant heat cycles they're put through on daily driving routines, i'd rather get a cast than tubular. Unfortunately there's only 1 company that makes cast t3 mani's and that's turbonetics, but if you do some research, you'd find out the design is a little less than desirable. I'm wondering if there were any 1-off brands that had taken the crappy port work of the turbonetics into effect and designed a manifold that was a little more bolt on friendly and didn't require 5 hours of port work for it to flow properly out of the box.

 

[almostquick]

well, I would tell you to go to On-Green performance and check out the cast mani that is from the cast of a HKS, but I think its for a straight T4. still might go and give it a try. I'm surprized that places like SBR, that make their own casts, dont make their cast manifolds w/ the option of having a t3 or t4 flange on it.

 

[GVR4592]

Sbr is planning on making a cast manifold for a t3 and possibly t4 flange, it just won't be out anytime soon.

 

[definitiveno]

Sbr is planning on making a cast manifold for a t3 and possibly t4 flange, it just won't be out anytime soon.

SBR commeneted on this just this week, huml commeneted that 4 out of 5 email request's reguarding new manifold designs he's recieved were for a T4 flange manifold, and that will be their next production. Having similar shape the T3 will follow shortly after.....



No ETA was given on either manifolds debut.

 

[ISUJakey]

well after hearing all the crap about tubular manifolds on dsms cracking because of the constant heat cycles they're put through on daily driving routines, i'd rather get a cast than tubular.

Why don't you call up Mr. Shearer and ask him if his manifolds crack instead of believing what you heard? I still find it amazing how cheap so many of you all are when it comes to wanting a tubular manifold but yet continually bi*** when the cheap manifold you find turns out to be a POS.

 

[ISUJakey]

Dont know what your budget is, but I am certain this manifold will kick all the others in the nuts.

Well that's good to hear. You had better tell Shep that he needs to ditch Shearer's manifold and switch to a Metal Man.

 

[Boosted98gsx]

Well that's good to hear. You had better tell Shep that he needs to ditch Shearer's manifold and switch to a Metal Man.

thought shep ran a custom built manifold from FP.

 

[ISUJakey]

thought shep ran a custom built manifold from FP.

I could easily be mistaken and if I am, I apologize for my error. However, I do believe that Shep uses a manifold fabricated by Ron Shearer and turbo built by FP.

 

[Boosted98gsx]

I could easily be mistaken and if I am, I apologize for my error. However, I do believe that Shep uses a manifold fabricated by Ron Shearer and turbo built by FP.

I know the turbo was made by FP, and i'm fairly certain that when i was over there, Robert told me that they fabbed up his manifold for the setup as well.

 

[Slowboy]

SBR commeneted on this just this week, huml commeneted that 4 out of 5 email request's reguarding new manifold designs he's recieved were for a T4 flange manifold, and that will be their next production. Having similar shape the T3 will follow shortly after.....



No ETA was given on either manifolds debut.

Late spring for T4, early summer for T3.

MGH

 

[Boosted98gsx]

Late spring for T4, early summer for T3.

MGH

Good to hear, Mike. Gives me time to see what I can do with the new engine and Big16g before I upgrade.

Got any previews of manifold designs?