Ball Bearing Turbos

[Aurora-Hybrid]

Hey guys, I was wodnering if anyone could give me a good site or 2 to find some ball bearing turbos. I have a 92 Eclipse with a GST motor swap. so I have the stock 16g turbo. I wanna upgrade to a ball bearing turbo sometime this year, you know...better spool . Can someone please help me out? And if any of you have ball bearing turbos please let me know how how well they are or aren't. I appreciate it guys!

 

[gasguzzler]

PTE and I believe FP make ball bearing turbos for the Mitsu application. The ball bearing turbos seem to work very well on the Mitsu's.

 

[Steve Hebert]

Street or strip use? HP range?
I am building a street car and this is my choice.

http://www.dsmtalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=108045

But doing it right isn't cheap.

 

[Aurora-Hybrid]

Its for street use. I'm hopping to get somewhere in ball ball park of 350whp, maybe a lil more. The ball bearing turbo will be the last thing. I'm saving up right now for bigger injectors, fuel rail, fuel pressure regulator, cam shafts, header, downpipe(Apexi GT/N1), the works. If any luck I'll have most of it by the end of summer or begining of winter this year. IF things go right that is, which....they never do. Thats for all the info so fare guys! Keep it commin'!!!!

 

[Staytuned]

I have the FP 3052 and it is awesome. I still haven't got out and really tested it fully, but I can say it feels really good at an untuned 14 psi. This things builds boost so effortlessly.

If you want an awesome street turbo with a BB CHRA think FP 3052.

 

[Aurora-Hybrid]

Do you have a URL where I can check out a FP 3052? Also, what upgrades did you have to do b4 you put you FP 3052 on? List 'em all if you dont mind. Thanks!

 

[Staytuned]

http://www.forcedperformance.net/

I had everything but a fully built bottom end. Check my profile out.

 

[AL92]

I was thinking of going with a fp 3052 but a few things are buggin me.First the price is very high!! Next they dont' offer an internal gate and also you need their 02 housing and thought someone said if you don't want the wastegate to dump into the air then you need to spend another 300 on their modded o2.is this true.I emailed FP but no response so far that was only a few days ago.

So from all this think getting slowboy gt 12 same pretty near as a 3052.It can be bought with internal gate and had no trouble with internal on my rs49 agp.I would get sloyboys nice new cast exh man since sold off my evo and their 02 or maybe this nice one off horsepower freaks.Also gt 12 is cheaper than the fp 3052 but if you port it then about same or slightly less.They say no porting is needed on the 3052 but offer it on the gt 12.
Should I pay for the porting and porting of the slowboy exhuast manifold..Does porting really help that much and in what ways?

Anyway I think fp should offer a recirc type o2 housing for maybe 300 tops and it will cost more to buy an external gate.I do think internal can work fine as long as you have good 02 housing.But external is the ultimate for rock solid boost I guess.Just that I don't want to hear the wastegate dumping to the atmosphere.

 

[4CTP]

here's my wet blanket post: ball bearing units are NOT durable at all, and are not rebuildable. I sell turbos, and once your ball bearing turbo gets overboosted and overheats, it's OVER......just my 2 cents

 

[GTM]

here's my wet blanket post: ball bearing units are NOT durable at all, and are not rebuildable. I sell turbos, and once your ball bearing turbo gets overboosted and overheats, it's OVER......just my 2 cents

Where do you get your information, why would you make such an unqualified statement? Engineering data does not support the superiority of a bushed shaft vs a bearing supported shaft. Gosh, why don't we just substitute bushing for wheel bearings because they are cheaper to make.

Usually when I see 2¢ it's associated with an opinion and not scientific fact. I don't know what bunch of nonsense you are trying to sell us or what ax you have to grind but it would appear you are willing to post bogus information. This makes all of your posts suspect and will not win you respect as a credible source.

Spreading of urban legends just makes dealing with problems impossible, people come here to get factual information and not some unsupportable claim. Maybe you can double talk some kid with more money than brains but please don't try to pass this nonsense off as fact because you sell turbos and no other credentials.

Cheers,
GTM

 

[boostedinaz]

here's my wet blanket post: ball bearing units are NOT durable at all, and are not rebuildable. I sell turbos, and once your ball bearing turbo gets overboosted and overheats, it's OVER......just my 2 cents

Like GTM has already said this makes you, your business, and your post in the other threads suspect. I would give AGP, FP, Turbonetics, or anyother reputable company a call and they will tell you just how much it will be to rebuild your ball bearing turbo.

Also, what is the name of you company/store?

 

[oldman]

here's my wet blanket post: ball bearing units are NOT durable at all, and are not rebuildable. I sell turbos, and once your ball bearing turbo gets overboosted and overheats, it's OVER......just my 2 cents

I applauded you for what you were trying to do with your "evo16g vs evo16g GT" thread. I read the old thread about 3 months ago and I did not care for SBR's bullying attitude, boarderline racist statements, particularly didn't appreciate the way they treated their own customer openly on a public forum. I was hoping you would provide some real data to prove SBR was wrong on the subject, disappointingly the thread got closed because you failed to do so.

Most of us try very hard every day to provide the new comers scientific facts so they can do it right instead of going through the mistakes the older crow had made. Here you are making a blanket statement like that again without any real data to back it up. It is especially important,being a turbo vendor, that you get your facts straight before you post. It was mentioned in the other thread that you sell these evo16g gt turbos on ebay, If you don't wish to tell us the name of your company I guess it wouldn't be too hard for us to find out. I would not recommend anyone buying a turbo from some one like you. Just my 2 cents.

GTM where did you get the cents symbol? I can't find it on my key board.

 

[sjwelna]

I will say this. I have the PTE gt-30r and it is a very nice turbo, 23 psi of boost by about 3500 rpm on the stock 2.0L. Mods are in profile. However, God help me if I ever manage to destroy another one. Less than a week after putting one of PTE's 30r turbos on my car, it injested a nut and totally destroyed the compressor wheel. I sent it back to PTE to get it fixed (on my dollar of course, warranty doesn't cover injestion of metal objects ) I was forced to buy an entirely new center section from them because Garrett doesn't wholesale the parts for the gt series turbos. Needless to say, baby the thing and be damn careful. (the new center section put me back a hefty $650, so there went cams and possibly some bigger injectors)

-Steve

 

[GTM]

...
Just my 2 cents.

GTM where did you get the cents symbol? I can't find it on my key board.

See what comes of having been around since the 8087 and 8088 CPU.
The ASCII code is 155, on a PC holding down the ALT key and typing in 155 on the numeric keypad you will get ¢.

However, we are using a very limited word processor which may have may have other assignments for other ASCII codes so best try other combinations on your PC lest you dump a post that you have been writing for 20 min.

You can get ASCII and ASCII-2 codes from plenty of sources on the internet.

Cheers,
GTM

 

[oldman]

lest you dump a post that you have been writing for 20 min.

It took 30 min.

 

[GTM]

...
Less than a week after putting one of ... it injested a nut and totally destroyed the compressor wheel.

I guess the question to ask is how much you saved by DIY over paying a professional to have done the job for you?

Do not misunderstand me, I have forever been an advocate of DIY and garnering knowledge but it is folly when confidence allows one of the most basic precepts is overlooked.

I have also known of "friends" who feel it's just a trick to toss some piece of metal into an intake manifold. I use to campaign my own International Offshore Racing sailboat and know some other deck crews can toss some critical fastener onboard my boat. As skipper I would have to take the time to inspect the nut or cotterpin while in the heat of racing that just appeared on deck to determine if I was going to loose the mast and possibly loss of life or some arse pulling a dirty trick. My point is you must be aware where every part is when dealing with critical components and just because XYZ company would not sell parts then become informed and buy your own if cost effective.

Cheers,
GTM

 

[dynatos]

As far as a turbo recommendation, if you want to try something non ball-bearing these are looking promising.

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=145691