FP3065 with manifold wastegate

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My friend bought an FP3065 and has a SBR tubular exhaust manifold. He was wondering if he could use the wastegate on the exhaust manifold and block off the one on the turbo. Is this possible?

 

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Nobody knows? Cmon throw me a bone here!

 

[NDgsx]

Weld a flat piece of metal onto a V band clamp and put on the WG output.

 

[JohnTSI]

Part of the deisign of turbo is The placement of the wastegate, if anything I would block off the wastegate setup on the manifold.

 

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78 views and only two people have something to say.... odd.

 

[turbodagain]

i agree with john

 

[Dallas J]

78 views and only two people have something to say.... odd.

WTF else is there to say ?

All you have to do is block it off. Yes it will work.

-Dallas J

 

[99gst_racer]

My friend bought an FP3065 and has a SBR tubular exhaust manifold. He was wondering if he could use the wastegate on the exhaust manifold and block off the one on the turbo. Is this possible?

Yeah, it is possible. He could block off either or and use either or. The results will be the same.

 

[Hazard]

This is not advanced...at all.

 

[Spyder FX]

I would block off the mani one and keep the wastegate on the hot side of the turbo. And yes this is not advanced by any means

 

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See these are the posts I was waiting for.. I want an answer it doesn't bother me to get knocked on at all; especially if it's only because I put it in the wrong place. Which the mods don't seem to think so.

 

[Hazard]

Sorry, i would have answered your question had i seen it (dont use forums often), but i still woulda been a cockhead


good luck

 

[Lunch_Box]

Why didn't you buy one of there manifolds with out a waste gate flange? That way no blocking is needed. And I would block the one on the manifold, not the turbo.

 

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Lunchbox:

My friend bought an FP3065 and has a SBR tubular exhaust manifold.

 

[95AWD_TSI_TALON]

If you dont block off the internal flapper then you will not be "boosting" you will be creeping. you have to block the internal flapper to run the external off the manifold or vise versa. Run the external (manifold) and don't completly block the internal wastegate your inital boost hit will SUCK and you will think your car has a bad boost leak.
matt

 

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Are you on crack? You think the FP3065 has an INTERNAL gate?? Maybe you should've gone and looked at FP's site BEFORE replying.

 

[95AWD_TSI_TALON]

I'm not on crack. I know how BIG a gt3065 is..I'm about to upgrade to it from my 60-1. And my buddy has a gt4065. But there are people out there on crack that order turbos of that size internal! And the way he phrased it thats how it sounded!!!!!
matt

 

[95AWD_TSI_TALON]

Well I stand corrected. I looked at FP's site and noticed they have changed their exhaust housings since last time I looked them up (like a year or so ago). Back when I was looking up greens and red's that were...ow yea ABLE to be internal if you were insanly cheap. I deal with AGP hands down.
Matt

 

[90GSXDan]

I see no reason into running the wastegate off the manifold. Its acutally better to run it off the turbine housing/02 housing. Safer. None the less, if he wanted to keep the wastegate he had, He should of just asked them to weld on the flange, they do it for free.
Making that turbo run a wastegate off the manifold is just pointless.

 

[Stapl3]

The 30 series turbine housing is it's claim to fame. If he wanted to run the WG off the manifold, he should have just got a gt35r.

 

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He doesn't care if he runs it off the manifold or not, just wondering what's better.

 

[NDgsx]

I deal with AGP hands down.
Matt

That's nice, but didn't you just say?

I'm not on crack. I know how BIG a gt3065 is..I'm about to upgrade to it from my 60-1.

What?

90GSXDanIts acutally better to run it off the turbine housing/02 housing. Safer.

How on earth is running the wastegate off of the turbine housing "safer"? That makes absolutely no sense.
Any wastegate that is mounted post collector is great. It's the manifolds that mount them halfway up the runner that you want to avoid.
The other thing to keep in mind is does this guy already have a wastegate with his manifold? If so is it a tial 44mm?
Something that you guys probably aren't thinking about is ease of blocking off the part and resale. If you take a v-band ferule, weld a cap on it, and slap that off the turbo you can remove it later with one bolt and have a perfect turbo to sell.
If you weld a plate onto the manifold you kill the resale. If you make pay someone to make a block off plate it will be more expensive then welding a plate onto a vband ferule.

 

[DSMJim]

Any wastegate that is mounted post collector is great. It's the manifolds that mount them halfway up the runner that you want to avoid.

Is there any proof anywhere that a wastegate off one runner is not as efficient? I have seen lots of thoery on this but never have seen/heard anybody have to move their wastegate from the edge of the last runner to the collector because it wouldn't control the the boost well enough.

I have personally seen 524whp made on a turbonetics manifold with the wastegate off the last runner. It's a Magnus car (Ian Currey or Mclaren55 name on here though he doesn't come around much) and he had no problem with boost control or his wastegate with it setup off the one runner.

http://www.dsmtuners.com/gallery/showgallery.php?cat=500&ppuser=1687

He did have an adapeter plate to go from the 35mm wastegate flange to a 40mm but thats about it.

 

[Mirage2LTurbo]

Is there any proof anywhere that a wastegate off one runner is not as efficient? I have seen lots of thoery on this but never have seen/heard anybody have to move their wastegate from the edge of the last runner to the collector because it wouldn't control the the boost well enough.

I have personally seen 524whp made on a turbonetics manifold with the wastegate off the last runner. It's a Magnus car (Ian Currey or Mclaren55 name on here though he doesn't come around much) and he had no problem with boost control or his wastegate with it setup off the one runner.

http://www.dsmtuners.com/gallery/showgallery.php?cat=500&ppuser=1687

He did have an adapeter plate to go from the 35mm wastegate flange to a 40mm but thats about it.

Local guy had a Turbonetics manifold with a Tial 38 and an SC61 and was having creep issues. Switched to a manifold flanged off the collector, no problems now. He's running that in his original turbo 4g63 Mirage.

 

[DSMJim]

Local guy had a Turbonetics manifold with a Tial 38 and an SC61 and was having creep issues. Switched to a manifold flanged off the collector, no problems now. He's running that in his original turbo 4g63 Mirage.

It's more likely his problem was because his wastegate was to small for that position. Ian was running a larger turbo than the sc61 and he didn't run into that problem but he ran a 44mm (?)HKS gate. I have ran as high as 26psi on my car with a 35mm not even the 38mm gate and it was fine, however I'm running a 50trim not an sc61.

I see and here a lot of talk about how off the one runner is bad and collector is good but typically the guys who are really hardcore on that are people who read too much on the internet (honda guys etc..)

From what I have seen guys have made over 550whp off one runner and not had problems, seems more like it depends on the overall setup.