Fuel issue. I need new thoughts to shove me in the right direction...

[->PrOjEcTGS<-]

My mod list is up to date. And sorry for the book I'm about to write...

Here's my problem.

I tuned my car this winter on meth and everything ran great at 27psi and 11.5:1 AFR throughout my 3rd gear pulls. This is on a S16G pulling 36lb/min.

Now that it's summer time and 90*+ out, I'm having a fueling issue. I can slam on it in 1st or 2nd and get a 11.5 afr throughout but as soon as I lay into it in 3rd, 4th, or 5th hitting 25psi falling to 20psi it goes lean to the tune of 13.8:1AFR. As soon as I saw this I let off. I'm not seeing any knock even at that AFR with the Water/Meth injection. So, I don't think I did any damage. But, I can't figure it out. I have absolutely no boost leaks, not even at the TB shaft seals. Also, my IDC's are at about 60-65%.

Now, I haven't had the opportunity to make a CAI for the car yet so I am seeing about 120-130* intake temps.

So my questions are...

I think I'm over working the pump.

Currently I'm running the NT FPR on my car with a Walbro 190 and my chip has the injectors set at 690's to compensate for the higher fuel pressure. Since the NT FPR has a higher base fuel pressure would it be wise for me to drop back to the stock turbo FPR in order for the pump to flow more at the higher PSI levels? Then, compensate the chip for 650's in order to raise the IDC's up for more fuel flow?

Am I just running into a fuel temperature issue here? What happens to the density of fuel with higher temperatures. Does it have the same affect on fuel that it does to air? If so, that would mean my fuel pump is actually able to support my needs in cooler weather but not in warm/hot temps?

I just went out and verified that my nozzles are not clogged by pulling them out and manually activating the system. Is it possible that once I get to the higer PSI levels in boost that my WI system is having a hard time pumping the water into the IC piping? How should I go about adjusting the pressure on that?

If anyone has any relevent info on any of this please feel free to help.

 

[steve]

I can slam on it in 1st or 2nd and get a 11.5 afr throughout but as soon as I lay into it in 3rd, 4th, or 5th hitting 25psi falling to 20psi it goes lean to the tune of 13.8:1AFR.

So my questions are...

I think I'm over working the pump.

Currently I'm running the NT FPR on my car with a Walbro 190 and my chip has the injectors set at 690's to compensate for the higher fuel pressure. Since the NT FPR has a higher base fuel pressure would it be wise for me to drop back to the stock turbo FPR in order for the pump to flow more at the higher PSI levels? Then, compensate the chip for 650's in order to raise the IDC's up for more fuel flow?

47.6 psi base + 25psi boost = 72.6 psi
Once you add in the pressure drops for fittings, hoses, fuel filter the pressure at the pump has to be close to 80 psi. So it's possible that the pressure relief valve in the pump is opening and flow is dropping off right when you need it the most.

 

[mindset]

I see you have new pics! Nice 1g!

Anyway, I know I'm a noob with all the tuning stuff but why not just get an AFPR? I'm not sure what the NT FPR is, but couldn't you just open up the FPR a little more to dump more fuel into the system?

 

[->PrOjEcTGS<-]

I see you have new pics! Nice 1g!

Anyway, I know I'm a noob with all the tuning stuff but why not just get an AFPR? I'm not sure what the NT FPR is, but couldn't you just open up the FPR a little more to dump more fuel into the system?

Thanks... took them a couple days ago!

NT FPR= Non Turbo Fuel Pressure Regulator. I ran it on the stock pump and injectors to get a little more umph out of them. Never removed it when I upgraded to the 190. I just don't have the money for an AFPR right now otherwise I'd be all over that.

47.6 psi base + 25psi boost = 72.6 psi
Once you add in the pressure drops for fittings, hoses, fuel filter the pressure at the pump has to be close to 80 psi. So it's possible that the pressure relief valve in the pump is opening and flow is dropping off right when you need it the most.

In all your wisdom do you think popping the stock Turbo FPR on will help my situation. Dropping the fuel pressure should create more flow and if I up the IDC a little bit that should be reflected at the injector.

Otherwise I think it's time for a pump that flows better at higher pressures.

 

[mindset]

NT FPR= Non Turbo Fuel Pressure Regulator.

I figured that's what it meant, I'm used to seeing "N/T".

 

[steve]

Do you think popping the stock Turbo FPR on will help my situation. Dropping the fuel pressure should create more flow and if I up the IDC a little bit that should be reflected at the injector.

Otherwise I think it's time for a pump that flows better at higher pressures.

I don't know if you can mod the Walbro 190's relief valve like you can the 255 but you need to do something to drop the pressure at the pump down to where the base + boost + losses < the relief pressure and the pump can flow the required volume for your injectors at your MAX IDC. Putting a manual turbo FPR on is going to help keep the pump from dumping fuel back into the tank rather than to your injectors.

All of this is really about flow. I believe your flow is falling off at high boost because the valve is opening. If you had the ability to log fuel pressure I suspect it's dropping rather than tracking boost because of it.

 

[DJ23GSX]

Are you still using the o-ring seal from the pump to the sending unit? Its common for those to leak under such high pressure. I thought mine was leaky so I actually cut the bell off the sending unit and attached the pump to the sending unit with rubber fuel line and hose clamps to insure it doesn't leak.

Also the fuel flow of the 190 falls off dramatically at high pressures

 

[JayRolla]

I think you should go back to the stock FPR and get a 255lph if you still have a fuel issue. Its only a $100 upgrade and you could get some of that back selling the 190lph. I have ran a 255lph on the stock 1g FPR in many cars and never had an issue.

 

[->PrOjEcTGS<-]

Yes I am. I'm wanting to upgrade the whole delivery system with a 90* bulkhead connector and some -6 AN all the way to the filter. Eventually an intank Bosch 044 is in my future. That'll be after my AFPR install.

I put the stock turbo FPR on today and retuned my Global to 650. I have been running full time Open Loop in order to get my fuel map all dialed in. Also, seems the transition from vac to boost is a lot smoother running only in open loop. With the lower fuel pressure, it's still running a little rich at idle (13.5's). I haven't had the time to pull a log yet. So, on my way into work tomorrow I'll pull a nice 3rd gear log (for you Empie!) and see what that yields.

 

[->PrOjEcTGS<-]

Well... I put the turbo FPR back on and pulled a 3rd gear log on the way to work today... AFR's looked good throughout the pull. I forgot my chip burner at home today so I won't be able to edit the bin at all to make some mods to the fuel map but I'm happy. It was a little cooler today though in the 80's instead of 90+ heat indices of 100+. Maybe that had something to do with it?

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  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>3500.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>15.62</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>0.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>1.25</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>11.11</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>100.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>12.00</td>
 </tr>
 <tr height=20 style='height:15.0pt'>
  <td height=20 class=xl6523016 style='height:15.0pt;border-top:none'>219.97</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>648.70</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>129.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>195.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>3718.75</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>15.36</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>1.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>1.27</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>11.17</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>100.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>14.00</td>
 </tr>
 <tr height=20 style='height:15.0pt'>
  <td height=20 class=xl6523016 style='height:15.0pt;border-top:none'>220.31</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>667.59</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>129.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>195.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>3875.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>15.10</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>0.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>1.37</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>11.47</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>100.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>14.00</td>
 </tr>
 <tr height=20 style='height:15.0pt'>
  <td height=20 class=xl6523016 style='height:15.0pt;border-top:none'>220.66</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>711.68</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>129.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>195.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>4062.50</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>15.36</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>0.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>1.25</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>11.11</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>100.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>14.00</td>
 </tr>
 <tr height=20 style='height:15.0pt'>
  <td height=20 class=xl6523016 style='height:15.0pt;border-top:none'>221.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>743.17</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>130.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>195.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>4218.75</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>15.62</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>0.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>1.27</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>11.17</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>100.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>15.00</td>
 </tr>
 <tr height=20 style='height:15.0pt'>
  <td height=20 class=xl6523016 style='height:15.0pt;border-top:none'>221.34</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>806.15</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>130.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>195.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>4437.50</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>15.62</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>0.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>1.27</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>11.17</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>100.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>15.00</td>
 </tr>
 <tr height=20 style='height:15.0pt'>
  <td height=20 class=xl6523016 style='height:15.0pt;border-top:none'>221.72</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>862.83</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>130.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>195.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>4656.25</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>15.62</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>0.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>1.23</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>11.05</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>100.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>16.00</td>
 </tr>
 <tr height=20 style='height:15.0pt'>
  <td height=20 class=xl6523016 style='height:15.0pt;border-top:none'>222.09</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>888.02</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>131.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>195.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>4750.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>15.36</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>0.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>1.29</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>11.23</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>100.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>16.00</td>
 </tr>
 <tr height=20 style='height:15.0pt'>
  <td height=20 class=xl6523016 style='height:15.0pt;border-top:none'>222.47</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>913.22</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>131.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>195.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>5000.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>15.10</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>0.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>1.23</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>11.05</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>100.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>16.00</td>
 </tr>
 <tr height=20 style='height:15.0pt'>
  <td height=20 class=xl6523016 style='height:15.0pt;border-top:none'>222.84</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>938.41</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>132.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>195.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>5281.25</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>14.85</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>0.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>1.19</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>10.93</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>100.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>17.00</td>
 </tr>
 <tr height=20 style='height:15.0pt'>
  <td height=20 class=xl6523016 style='height:15.0pt;border-top:none'>223.22</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>963.60</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>133.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>195.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>5468.75</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>14.85</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>0.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>1.21</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>10.99</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>100.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>17.00</td>
 </tr>
 <tr height=20 style='height:15.0pt'>
  <td height=20 class=xl6523016 style='height:15.0pt;border-top:none'>223.63</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>969.90</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>135.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>195.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>5625.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>14.59</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>0.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>1.19</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>10.93</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>100.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>17.00</td>
 </tr>
 <tr height=20 style='height:15.0pt'>
  <td height=20 class=xl6523016 style='height:15.0pt;border-top:none'>224.03</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>976.20</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>136.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>195.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>5812.50</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>14.34</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>0.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>1.21</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>10.99</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>100.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>18.00</td>
 </tr>
 <tr height=20 style='height:15.0pt'>
  <td height=20 class=xl6523016 style='height:15.0pt;border-top:none'>224.44</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>982.49</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>137.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>195.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>5906.25</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>14.08</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>0.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>1.17</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>10.87</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>100.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>19.00</td>
 </tr>
 <tr height=20 style='height:15.0pt'>
  <td height=20 class=xl6523016 style='height:15.0pt;border-top:none'>224.84</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>1007.69</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>137.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>195.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>6093.75</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>13.57</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>0.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>1.19</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>10.93</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>100.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>20.00</td>
 </tr>
 <tr height=20 style='height:15.0pt'>
  <td height=20 class=xl6523016 style='height:15.0pt;border-top:none'>225.25</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>1007.69</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>137.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>195.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>6281.25</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>13.31</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>0.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>1.17</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>10.87</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>100.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>21.00</td>
 </tr>
 <tr height=20 style='height:15.0pt'>
  <td height=20 class=xl6523016 style='height:15.0pt;border-top:none'>225.63</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>1013.98</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>139.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>195.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>6500.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>13.06</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>0.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>1.17</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>10.87</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>100.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>21.00</td>
 </tr>
 <tr height=20 style='height:15.0pt'>
  <td height=20 class=xl6523016 style='height:15.0pt;border-top:none'>226.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>1020.28</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>140.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>195.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>6562.50</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>13.06</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>0.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>1.13</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>10.75</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>100.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>21.00</td>
 </tr>
 <tr height=20 style='height:15.0pt'>
  <td height=20 class=xl6523016 style='height:15.0pt;border-top:none'>226.34</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>1020.28</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>140.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>195.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>6687.50</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>12.80</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>0.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>1.19</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>10.93</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>100.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>22.00</td>
 </tr>
 <tr height=20 style='height:15.0pt'>
  <td height=20 class=xl6523016 style='height:15.0pt;border-top:none'>226.66</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>1007.69</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>141.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>195.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>6781.25</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>12.29</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>0.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>1.19</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>10.93</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>100.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>21.00</td>
 </tr>
 <tr height=20 style='height:15.0pt'>
  <td height=20 class=xl6523016 style='height:15.0pt;border-top:none'>226.97</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>1020.28</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>141.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>195.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>6875.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>12.29</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>0.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>1.19</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>10.93</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>100.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>21.00</td>
 </tr>
 <tr height=20 style='height:15.0pt'>
  <td height=20 class=xl6523016 style='height:15.0pt;border-top:none'>227.28</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>1013.98</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>143.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>195.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>6968.75</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>11.78</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>1.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>1.21</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>10.99</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>99.22</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>21.00</td>
 </tr>
 <tr height=20 style='height:15.0pt'>
  <td height=20 class=xl6523016 style='height:15.0pt;border-top:none'>227.59</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>1001.39</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>143.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>195.00</td>
  <td class=xl6523016 style='border-top:none;border-left:none'>7125.00</td>
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[JayRolla]

I used to run the n/t FPR but its just too much fuel pressure. Goes to show how fast it made your 190lph run out.

 

[->PrOjEcTGS<-]

Yup... Now it's time for me to get the AFR's in the 11.5-11.8 range and get the timing up a couple degrees from 3k-5k

 

[JayRolla]

Yeap, looks good. I like timing in the mid range. I hit 18* at lowest when boost hits and 22* max at redline.

 

[Ceddy]

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The 190s and the 255 non-HP stop flowing dramatically, after 70 psi.
AMS did a really good pump flow test, but I don't think they tested any 190s.