AEM AEM EMS vs DSMLink?

[98GSXSilver]

Anyone had any tests with these, or have them on thier cars right now?? Any feedback you might be able to add?? I'm thinking about picking one up instead of the DSMlink. Also anywhere that's selling them cheap??

 

[Turbo Guru]

http://www.aempower.com/bbs/index.php

 

[alexd29]

My Friend has one on his 96 gsx. His car is heavilly modded, fully built motor, head work etc.. He used to run safc and avcr and since he switched he has gained about 50 whp, but he said it is a much more advanced tuning tool, and the software is not easy to learn, his car went from 330 whp to 389 at 23 psi and is still not fully tuned , but if you get it be prepared to spend some time trying to learn all of the software, and have acces to a dyno to check your progress. If you have the time and the money its worth it if your car has significant mods. If not, i wouldnt invest.

 

[DougEFresh]

i just picked mine up installed the ems and the 1st gen base map i still have plenty of fine tuning to do. the system is one of a kind as far as the level of support you get for a full standalone is unheard of the dsm forums on aempower have been somewhat slow but aem is also doing alot of testing and constently updating the info i have tuned a haltech e6k before and the amount of time you save with wiring and intitial setup is unbelievable keeping in mind the supplied base map is for a car running a 16g this map will go right out the window once my ETE32 goes in but if your interested in really learning how to tune this system would be a great one to use to learn the cd manual is very in depth and if you take your time to read the glossary files and the pro and log user manuals youll be on your way and as more dsmers pick up the system the more available maps there will be and more people to help you solve the problems you may encounter hope that helps good luck if you decide the systems for you

 

[98GSXSilver]

hey thanks for the heads up...i've rebuilt a few dsms now and am moving into place on finshing my newest (95 Talon TSI)...just thought because of the control that this sytem offers it would be a great investment...

thanks for the input again and keep racing!!!

 

[larryd]

I moved this to the tuning forum, please try and use the proper forums

 

[GSX24PSI]

Iw ill be getting one in next January, right now i have a E-Manage, can not wait till i get the AEM EMS.

 

[BatmanGSX]

Do you really need an EMS or do you want one "just because"?

 

[ItsStockOfficer]

Originally posted by DougEFresh
i just picked mine up installed the ems and the 1st gen base map i still have plenty of fine tuning to do. the system is one of a kind as far as the level of support you get for a full standalone is unheard of the dsm forums on aempower have been somewhat slow but aem is also doing alot of testing and constently updating the info i have tuned a haltech e6k before and the amount of time you save with wiring and intitial setup is unbelievable keeping in mind the supplied base map is for a car running a 16g this map will go right out the window once my ETE32 goes in but if your interested in really learning how to tune this system would be a great one to use to learn the cd manual is very in depth and if you take your time to read the glossary files and the pro and log user manuals youll be on your way and as more dsmers pick up the system the more available maps there will be and more people to help you solve the problems you may encounter hope that helps good luck if you decide the systems for you

The base map is for 660's 2g mas....what turbo you yave does not matter at all since it has fuel amounts for every airflow level...I have a few base maps I worked out myself for 510's/1g mas/20g...Its cake to learn, took me about 30 minutes to be able to get my car running decent....BUT it will take along time for anyone to "master". Its a great system

 

[ItsStockOfficer]

Originally posted by alexd29
My Friend has one on his 96 gsx. His car is heavilly modded, fully built motor, head work etc.. He used to run safc and avcr and since he switched he has gained about 50 whp, but he said it is a much more advanced tuning tool, and the software is not easy to learn, his car went from 330 whp to 389 at 23 psi and is still not fully tuned , but if you get it be prepared to spend some time trying to learn all of the software, and have acces to a dyno to check your progress. If you have the time and the money its worth it if your car has significant mods. If not, i wouldnt invest.

Umm, your friend went from 16g power to what a stock block/stock head car should make with an safc...Im not impressed. He only picked up 50 whp he should have had anyways.

Go to RRE

 

[GreenGVR4]

I am in need of one also, and would like to know more about it..

 

[Taboo]

Originally posted by ItsStockOfficer
Umm, your friend went from 16g power to what a stock block/stock head car should make with an safc...Im not impressed. He only picked up 50 whp he should have had anyways.

I agree. Even the stock maps aren't THAT lousy. If he just plugged the AEM EMS in, loaded the 660cc maps and picked up 50HP, then it shows he couldn't tune for crap even with just the S-AFC.

 

[doug]

A seemingly very knowledgeable guy on the A/T forum at dsmtalk got one and said they didn't work with A/T cars out of the box, that they were incompatible with the TCU and required extensive modification to work on an A/T. Can anybody confirm this?

 

[mocfive]

on the subject of the AEM computer, Check this guys site out:

www.4wdturbo.com

 

[Taboo]

Originally posted by mocfive
on the subject of the AEM computer, Check this guys site out:

www.4wdturbo.com

He seems to run ProEFI, not the AEM EMS.

 

[mocfive]

sean used to have it, either way, its a nice site and hes a cool guy.

edit:
"Engine management mods:

ProEFI now known as AEM EMS with M&W Ignition Uego Sensor and MSD DIS 2 "


This is off his scc entry form on the www.turbo4wd.com site.

 

[Taboo]

The original ProEFI computers were built in Europe, but Jason Siebels stopped selling them a while back. The AEM EMS is based on the old ProEFI software, though..

 

[TSi92]

Originally posted by BatmanGSX
Do you really need an EMS or do you want one "just because"?

I say that that at least 75% of the people going with a standalone system don't really need it or are clueless what are the advantages/disadvantages of running one. All they want is the "I have a standalone" cool factor. It blows my mind when I see people that don't know how to tune a S-AFC and already wanna buy a standalone EMS.

 

[red clipse]

One ?, is the DSMlink a piggyback system or standalone? I know several people running the Haltech. They are extremely pleased with the control and tuning abilities. From their success alone, I would have to suggest that system.

 

[larryd]

the DSMlink retains the stock ECU, it just changes the Eprom chip on the ECU so its neither really..

 

[GreenGVR4]

Originally posted by TSi92


I say that that at least 75% of the people going with a standalone system don't really need it or are clueless what are the advantages/disadvantages of running one. All they want is the "I have a standalone" cool factor. It blows my mind when I see people that don't know how to tune a S-AFC and already wanna buy a standalone EMS.

I think that alot of people like because it is an advanced fuel tuning system and data logger, and it also can eliminate the MAS.. if you are going to spend $1100 on a HKS VPC why not just spent a couple hundred more dollars on something that you can get a whole lot more out of?

 

[jw]

The reason is simplicity. Nothing is more simple as turning 3 knobs. The best of all, it works.