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12-09-2007, 09:46 PM
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Questions on a 4g64 block I just bought
Hi, i just got a great deal on a 4g64 short block for just $70. everything is std. The previews owner told me it came from a 88-92 galant 2.4L SOHC. The block says 4g64 and its a 6bolt. I want to bult a 2.3L stroker not a hybrid. I also have 2 more 2.0L 6 bolt blocks.
What engine bearings can i use?
Are those ACL Race Bearings for 6 bolts 2.0L will work on my 100mm 6 bolt crank?
Im looking foward wiseco 9.0:1 and eagle combo I know I need to buy both for 1G but a friend told me to buy them for 2G, they will bolt on a 6 bolt crank but with a 22mm pin is better than 21mm pin. I know is pretty acurate but i need opinions.
Tell me if im right, to finish my stroker block i need:
2.0L 85mm bore 4g63 6 bolt block
wiseco 9.0:1 std bore 22mm pin piston
eagle rods for 2g with 22mm
4g64 100mm crank from my galant sohc 92 block
ACL race bearings for 4g63 6 bolt
ARP main studs for 6 bolt
ARP head studs for 6 bolt
1g 4g63 oil pump
1g 4g63 water pump
6 bolt fidanza flywheel
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12-12-2007, 03:41 PM
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You can't use 7 bolt rods on a 6 bolt crank. I don't think you need to worry about the 21mm pin either. The 6 bolt 4g63 and 4g64 bearings are the same.
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12-12-2007, 06:02 PM
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Also you don't want 2.0L pistons. You want 2.3L pistons which raises the wrist pin 6mm. Also do as GVR4592 the 6 bolt rods are nessisary, I also wouldnt be worried about 21mm wrist pins...people have put MUCH more power to these motors then you are going to.
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12-14-2007, 05:05 PM
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thanks for the replys
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12-14-2007, 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by GVR4592
You can't use 7 bolt rods on a 6 bolt crank. I don't think you need to worry about the 21mm pin either. The 6 bolt 4g63 and 4g64 bearings are the same.
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Wait???
how i cant use 7 bolt rods on 6 bolt cranks and many people have 6 bolt big rods on 7 bolt motors with 2g pistons?
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12-18-2007, 06:03 PM
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Long story short, the 7 bolt rods is too thin and therefore creates to much rod end play. The 6 bolt rod is 1.115" wide and the 7 bolt is 1.038" which is .077" difference and rod end play is spec'd at 0.0039-0.0098.
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12-18-2007, 06:55 PM
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Why would you want to build the 2.4L? You'll have extra torque and better rod ratio.
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12-18-2007, 10:55 PM
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what do you recomend in my position?
2.3 or 2.4 in a fwd?
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12-19-2007, 03:48 AM
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Why would you want to build the 2.4L? You'll have extra torque and better rod ratio.
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A 2.3 stroker has the same rod ratio as a 2.4.
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12-22-2007, 11:55 PM
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right know i dont have time to look on my garage but does my 89-92 6 bolt 4g64 sohc have knock sensor o if al least can i install one?
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12-23-2007, 12:32 AM
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Wow I really didn't understand that. Can you reword that so we can understand it better.
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12-23-2007, 12:41 AM
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sorry its just that english is my second lenguage. I have a non turbo 4g63 block and it dosent have the thread to bolt the knock sensor, the 4g63 turbo block has it. I want to know if my 4g64 2.4L sohc engine from 89-92 galant has that hole where i can bolt a knock sensor.
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12-23-2007, 10:12 AM
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If it does not have one you can put it in the rear balance shaft inspection hole.
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12-23-2007, 08:18 PM
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Any available bolt hole that it won't bottom out in, and has the same thread pitch will do. Because all that the knock sensor does if have a piezo crystal in it, that when detonation occurs pressure is exerted upon the crystal, and voltage is produced.
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01-21-2008, 10:33 PM
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does anyone has a picture of an unmodified dohc head and a modified dohc head to fit the 4g63 block?
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01-21-2008, 11:31 PM
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Ok i just read that the block is the one to be mmodified (plugged) but i also found that only 7 bolt 4g64 sohc needs to be plugged all 6 bolt 2.4 sohc and dohc are the same and dont need oil holes to be plugged
is that true?
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